Originally Posted by gerbick

You guys are way too damn ravenous if somebody has anything negative to say about the N900.

It's not perfect. Random reboots, some other glitches. And I'm one of the people that was wanting to get the hell away from that - I've had more than enough with three iPhone 3G in the last year, where each and every OS upgrade has been a potential disaster - 2.2x, 3.0.x and 3.x all have basically killed my iPhone.

So my disappointment reading about the problems people are running into is that it exhibits exactly what I'm running away from... a faulty experience, even if it's only just a few things.

I didn't expect perfection. But the things that is affecting people, I've already paid my dues.

You guys though... like piranha on the new posters that say anything otherwise.

Originally Posted by Megacrazy

Overall
- Scrolling anywhere is like a bunch of mini seizures, really close together. In other words, garbage. Why the hell is this not perfectly smooth like the iPhone? It's the same hardware.
- Missing features that make you go WTF: no playlists, no searching email.
- WTF do you sync with...you get OVI links from the factory yet you try ovi suite and you get "device not supported". Typical Nokia garbage.
- Desktop widgets are cool but take facebook and news...you get 2-3 lines that keep scrolling and no way to make the widget larger. Completely useless.
- Music player widget is great but does not work with A2DP. Why?
- RSS reader is slow as hell to update (wifi or not). Scrolling is painfull at best.
- Transitions in the OS are nice but they often turn choppy and fail altogether. If you want to use transitions see that 2 year old device...what was it again...oh yeah.
- Try playing music and going online at the same time. The choppy scrolling gets even worse. Can I still scroll in the browser? Yeah. Is it painful as hell? Yeah.


Browser:

- Scrolling through bookmarks is slow as hell. Why?
- Scrolling through pages you get the checkered pattern VERY often. Sometimes you sit there for 3-5 seconds waiting for the scroll to catch up. WTF?
- Sometimes the pages get messed up with previous pages. Half the page would be the current page, half the previous page. You have to either reload the page or scroll over the messed up area to refresh it. WTF?
- Clicking back brings up this nifty history view. Nice. Now I have to factor in 5-10 seconds every time I want to click back? Have a history button and have the back button do just that: TAKE YOU BACK. No, I don't want to press backspace.
- Flash...yeah it does flash and youtube videos. If you feel like waiting 20 seconds for the video to catch up to the audio every time you move the page while playing the video then this device is for you.


Conclusion

I could go on and on but in a few words: THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. I like it for what it can do but it doesn't do anything better than other phones out there. The experience is still painful. All the fragmented scrolling and painfull transitions make you feel like you're asking the device to do too much. Over-planned features are everywhere and yet not fully implemented (widgets, what widgets?). Basic functions are missing.

Where are the apps? WTF do you sync with? Why isn't there a central support page for this phone..etc.etc. I don't think Nokia has their stuff together and doubt they ever will. For me, this was Nokia's last chance to continue earning my business after all the garbage I bought from them over the years. Let's see how it pans out with some firmware updates but I am starting to get the feeling we're all wasting our time.

Originally Posted by x61

This got me thinking what did those 300 N900 testers really tested?

Originally Posted by Megacrazy

iPhone:

1. Press sturdy button on top, slide finger on glass to unlock....great feeling.
2. Press safari and watch the butter smooth zoom efect while it oppens.
3. Start scrolling through the page looking for stuff...perfectly smooth scrolling.
4. Throw the phone back in my pocket...done.

N900:

1. LOOK for the button on the side and slide it down...or press the button on top.
2. If button on top, slide my finger across the display, watch the choppy animation of the slider...hmmm.
3. Press the browser and wonder what happened to the other 30 frames that were dropped from the zoom effect while it pops up
4. Go to a page and try scrolling while it's loading and watch checkered patterns for a good 5 seconds every time I scroll.
5. Done loading, I can finally find stuff.
6. LOOK for the button on the side to lock the phone and put it back in my pocket.

Originally Posted by MontyBravo

Right, I assume you have not noticed the large number of complaints on this forum with, rebooting , bricked phones, no support for MFE with 2003 only 2004. I simply cannot be bothered to detail all of these separate posts and threads. If you refuse to notice these posts, not my problem.

have a look at this post for an example of missing features listed from an end user.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35259

I imagine your next point will be , its not a phone, its ok the community will sort this out. For my hard earned case I do not expect to have to wait for basic features to be on a device and for the community to fix this.

No I do not own one, friend does, have used it, looks great, lots missing, and it rebooted on him as he was showing me a demo of it.

Most nokia phones (high end/midrange) have software for document editing (yes it does cost money as do apps in most app stores for phones). N900, not an option full stop.

Originally Posted by DaveP1

1) As a computer, the N900 sucks because it is too slow, too limited, and the screen is too small for anything but web browsing. As a successor to the N810, it's fine, but the N810 is basically a PDA. My N810 replaced an old Palm TX and, besides the faster processor and better screen, doesn't have any more capabilities.

If Nokia wishes to release a mobile computer, Nokia (not the Maemo community) needs to, at a minimum, upgrade the processor, put Firefox (not just Fennec), OpenOffice, Java, and the current Adobe Flash on the device out of the box, and increase the screen to at least 4.5 inches.

2) As a smartphone, Nokia needs to produce a device that, out of the box, does everything that both the iPhone and Droid both do and, ideally, it should do everything either the iPhone and Droid do. Actually, since the device will not be available for some time, it will have to do what the equivalent devices do at the time it is released.

Again, this needs to be out of the box. Consumers don't need or want to be told that some open source developer is working on it. They expect that the manufacturer will provide it.

Originally Posted by pelago

Genuine questions:

• Don't you have to lock the iPhone before you put it back in your pocket?
• And do you think the N900 physical lock button on the side could be found by feel only, after getting used to it?

I know that I initially found the physical lock button on the N810 tricky to use, but now I can use it without looking, which is why I was wondering about the N900 equivalent. I'm not going to comment on the animation/browser/scrolling smoothness, as I have neither an N900 nor iPhone.

Originally Posted by iJanne

1. Respectfully disagree. I think the N900 is a perfect beginning of a new class of mobile computer. In this regard, the iPhone or the Droid has got nothing on it, simply because they are more smartphones and not fully open mobile computers.