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2008-05-17
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#42
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Originally Posted by Benson
Getting fvwm2 to run is trivial and it works great, very fast.
You know if anyone has FVWM2 out? that's my traditional pick...
The problem running other window managers is:
1. the keyboard bug locks up the machine (not only under other window managers but I seem to see it more because I put a lot more demand on my machine when using another wm)
2. dbus doesn't run properly under other window mangers (don't ask me why). This will keep apps like microb and various others from launching. This is the showstopper because you can't use several of the basic apps.
If a way could be found around the dbus issue, the n800's would be so much more fun. I really don't like matchbox or the hildon desktop. fvwm can be made to be so much more.
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2008-05-19
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#43
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Originally Posted by smog
The most likely problem is that you don't have a /usr/local/bin/startmaemo, but fortunately you don't need it. If you look at /usr/bin/icemaemo, it first stops the maemo desktop and then starts icewm. Just do the opposite of stopping maemo to restart it afterwards:
I'm still stuck on this, can't go to maemo when I log out of ICEWM. Anybody got a suggestion so I can try to solve this ?
source /etc/osso-af-init/osso-gtk.defs
source /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.defs
source /etc/osso-af-init/hildon-desktop.sh stop
sleep 1
source /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.sh stop
sleep 1
/etc/osso-af-init/keyboard.sh stop
export PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin"
/usr/bin/icewm-session
source /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.sh start
sleep 1
source /etc/osso-af-init/hildon-desktop.sh start
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2008-05-19
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#44
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Originally Posted by coffeedrinker
Great to know. It's on my build list, then.
Getting fvwm2 to run is trivial and it works great, very fast.
1. the keyboard bug locks up the machine (not only under other window managers but I seem to see it more because I put a lot more demand on my machine when using another wm)
2. dbus doesn't run properly under other window mangers (don't ask me why). This will keep apps like microb and various others from launching. This is the showstopper because you can't use several of the basic apps.
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2008-05-19
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#45
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Originally Posted by Benson
The keyboard bug is a lockup of the keyboard input on the device. I suppose if you have an 810 you might be ok, but with the 800 and screen input you get problems. I've posted elsewhere about this and someone has said that it happens when the machine is under heavy load.
Great to know. It's on my build list, then.
Which keyboard bug? Not trying to be obtuse, but there's a passell of 'em, variously affecting various people. I find my BT keyboard experience to be (comparatively) trouble-free.
And I suppose that's definitely worth investigating, when I get to it...
The dbus issue is another matter. I don't see much use in having another window manager (which I DO want) when I can't run much of the software. So I suffer with matchbox
On another thread, a bounty has set on getting microb running under another manager (KDE?) so once someone figures that out, we'll be free to do a lot more with our devices.
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2008-05-19
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#46
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Ah, good to know it's on-screen; I'm reasonably cool with only BT keyboard. (Especially if I can switch WMs readily.)
Last edited by Benson; 2008-05-19 at 18:10.
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2008-05-19
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#47
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The nicest thing about doing it up right with a good wm is virtual screens. Throw each app in its own screen and switch between them with one click. Fast, works well, no screen space wasted.
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2008-05-23
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#48
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Originally Posted by coffeedrinker
is there a way to install another browser in ICEWM ?
On another thread, a bounty has set on getting microb running under another manager (KDE?) so once someone figures that out, we'll be free to do a lot more with our devices.
something as complete as microb but that work under something else than hildon ?
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2008-05-23
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#49
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Originally Posted by smog
Soon, when firefox 3 is all done.
is there a way to install another browser in ICEWM ?
something as complete as microb but that work under something else than hildon ?
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2008-10-24
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#50
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Originally Posted by penguinbait
10 month later bump !
Sorry guys (800/770) no on-screen keyboard
cd /
tar zxvf /path/to/ICEWM4.tgz
Dont expect lots, this is for your minimalist Linux lover.
Lots more to be done, but I rather like it.
make sure you set the user password before starting xlock
This is 16MB compressed, less than 40MB uncompressed, fits right in flash.
http://penguinbait.com/ICEWM4.tgz
was discussed in the direct boot to kde thread.
if it's easy to do it so it can be installed in flash like your previous version (I loved it) but use all the nokia applications from Hildon. (like microB to get a decent browser)
I can live with the "manual adding applications to menu" if it keep being as fast as it was on the previous version and involve less valuable time on your side.
the n800 keyboard problem was easy to solve using xkbd or using a real keyboard. the bluetooth mouse was also as responsive as on a regular laptop.
as I remember, the log-out from icewm was taking us in darkness of a frozen device.
Last edited by smog; 2008-10-24 at 14:34.
Proud user of KDE, ICEWM, Conky, USBMouse, xkbd.