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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Perhaps, but I suspect it'll need an awful lot of protest. Take reordering browser bookmarks, for instance. A standard feature in most browsers since bookmarks were introduced, but why can't we do that? Because of the UI spec. The amount of energy that I'm gonna bet will be required to get the UI spec changed (or some sort of exemption made
To an extent I agree, but I still have to believe that the proper amount of protest can instigate change...
) isn't really commensurate with the reasonability of a bug like this. It's way too much work for such a braindead bug.
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2008-03-31
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Fonts...
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
No, with KDE you can easily add fonts. Thats problem you mentioned earlier. Nokia decided to use Linux but tried to hide that fact, tried so hard that it hidden some existing solutions from themselves
Such are the pitfalls of an immature Linux platform. An enhancement request for a GUI font-manager of some sort, maybe?
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by vvaz
Did you read what I wrote? Let me quote it here for you with the important part emphasized:
No, with KDE you can easily add fonts. Thats problem you mentioned earlier.
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
KDE is hardly what one would describe as "immature". It has been around a lot longer (almost 10 years longer, in fact) than maemo/ITOS, and has had plenty of time to develop a good GUI font manager.
Such are the pitfalls of an immature Linux platform.
ITOS is still young (and, primarily, a mobile platform—how many cellphones or PDAs do you see with good GUI font management), a good GUI font manager will arrive with time. For now, sticking fonts in /home/user/.fonts/ and running fc-cache isn't particularly difficult.
Originally Posted by vvaz
This is a meaningless statement.
Nokia decided to use Linux but tried to hide that fact, tried so hard that it hidden some existing solutions from themselves
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by Benson
Well, that is the problem also for desktop version of Firefox/Mozilla and I hate it also there. I think primary reasons to change Internet engine were a) better compatibility with Internet applications like Google suite b) cut financial corners (free Mozilla vs. Opera)? Everyday usability stuff was far, far behind.
It quickly becomes obvious that microb is missing any sensible configuration method; you can either go to about:config, or you can settle for the three-checkboxes preferences dialog. And that's a sad failing, even though I'd be using such config for lots of other stuff, not for fonts.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Sorry, misunderstood you: "immature Linux" vs "immature platform as Maemo".
Did you read what I wrote? Let me quote it here for you with the important part emphasized:
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2008-03-31
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Do agree with most of the things posted in the OP except for the video calling. Setup 2 googletalk accounts input those credentials into your two tablets. Get network access on both tablets goto >Contacts find your contact and select >internet call... the other tablet will ring, the N810 will automatically launch video, the N800 has to have the little camera pulled out. I use video chat over google with my girlfriend 3G tethering >wifi, works well and works flawlessly. Look into your network setting or something because it does work better than gizmo and is a native application.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by vvaz
Been running Opera for some time, but I remembered FF as having much more config options than microb. <shrug />
Well, that is the problem also for desktop version of Firefox/Mozilla and I hate it also there. I think primary reasons to change Internet engine were a) better compatibility with Internet applications like Google suite b) cut financial corners (free Mozilla vs. Opera)? Everyday usability stuff was far, far behind.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by mobiledivide
OK, you describe exactly what happened to us, except the automatic launching of video. We expected it. We tried different things in case we weren't triggering something that was being looked for. Nothing got us video.
Do agree with most of the things posted in the OP except for the video calling. Setup 2 googletalk accounts input those credentials into your two tablets. Get network access on both tablets goto >Contacts find your contact and select >internet call... the other tablet will ring, the N810 will automatically launch video, the N800 has to have the little camera pulled out. I use video chat over google with my girlfriend 3G tethering >wifi, works well and works flawlessly. Look into your network setting or something because it does work better than gizmo and is a native application.
It's a simple enough process, you can understand how thoroughly we experimented, having taken over an hour to try and re-try things.
Anyway, this particular grievance, I will mark up to "individual unit" problems or "the specific network we were trying on" or something else particular, and not general to all IT's.
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2008-03-31
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Did the voice call do fine, but just the video failed? Or no connection working at all?
So, yes, they may dispute some bugs as requests that directly contradict their design standards, but they'll never know those designs aren't matching what people want if no one ever asks.