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#41
Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
Quim's reply isn't clear to me. The reply indicates they will not be publishing intermediate fw releases, but other threads here indicate that people are getting OTA updates.
Who is getting OTA?

there is no way in limiting who can receive an OTA.

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Originally Posted by mikkov View Post
I'll say it's very clear. Other people doesn't matter.
I think being given a device to test in the first place showed they matter.
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Originally Posted by anidel View Post
there is no way in limiting who can receive an OTA.

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Yes there is. The feature can be turned off in firmware.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Yes there is. The feature can be turned off in firmware.
But then we won't be able to get it when they'll release it.
Unless it'll be a whole FIASCO to download...

It could be.. but I doubt so.
 
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#45
As you can deduce from the versioning, there is several builds every week. In practice one or more updates a day. In every update there are a number of fixes integrated through package updates. If you have been in this distro integration work you know that the quality among releases might vary from one release to another just in one iteration.

From time to time we prepare one release with a specific purpose out of the R&D team, be a release for wider internal testing within the people at Nokia that has a device, be a Summit, etc.

These special releases require special attention, and now all our special attention is concentrated on the sales release. The team focusing in this release is after a small collection of remaining issues. Most of the development is concentrating already on the first maintenance release.

The feedback from Summit users has been useful confirming our own testing of the sales candidate and is being useful as well to prioritize bugs to be addressed in the maintenance release.
This is software development as usual.

Now, opening the can of public daily releases would bring probably a lot more noise than signal. Don't think only on the good samaritans reporting issues. Think also about a crowd of potential end users with pre-orders or thinking on an early purchase - without any background or experience in (open source) software development. Think also in a very thirsty blogosphere and IT media looking for Maemo/N900 related news and happy to highlight any details about problems, bugs, etc, days before an expected sales start.

This is not what an R&D team needs right before completing a final release. We experimented already a lot loaning these 300 pre-production devices with beta software to people free to do and explain whatever they want in public.

You can criticize the decisions but you can't deny that what we are doing with this release hasn't been done before by Nokia or any company in its league.
 

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Originally Posted by omniscy View Post
Who... Why... Where... would you have 10.000 messages in your mailbox
That's like complaining that your car is to slow when you sit in/on it with 50 people.
I have several large mailinglists where I would have that amount of mails at the end of the year. Even my normal INBOX has accumulated ~2000 messages in the last 2 months (so that also is > 10000 messages in a year).
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I think being given a device to test in the first place showed they matter.
I believe a language thing slipped in the machinery - I understood 'other people' in Mikkovs post as in folks who have access to internal, publicly not available builds. They are not part of the 300 loaner program, don't count as general public and in that sense they don't matter (except as a good source for speculations and guessing ).
 
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Originally Posted by anidel View Post
But then we won't be able to get it when they'll release it.
Unless it'll be a whole FIASCO to download...

It could be.. but I doubt so.
I mean only on certain interim builds is OTA turned off, temporarily. If/when that happens we just update the old-fashioned way.
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Originally Posted by range View Post
I have several large mailinglists where I would have that amount of mails at the end of the year. Even my normal INBOX has accumulated ~2000 messages in the last 2 months (so that also is > 10000 messages in a year).
Yeah but do you really need to keep all these mailing list messages?
 
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Originally Posted by omniscy View Post
Yeah but do you really need to keep all these mailing list messages?
Depends on the mailing list. Sometimes it can be useful, especially on more development oriented lists, where you may occasionally need to refer to past proposals, etc.
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