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2010-10-20 , 02:23
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#41
Originally Posted by h3llb0und View Post
that is probably the only truth he spoke for all that time he was rambling.
If they can't make/design a proper antenna on their "top of the line" iphone4 imagine how would someone make a call on a $50 iphone


Steve is doing a fine job at killing himself / his reputation
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2010-10-20 , 02:50
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Originally Posted by Sopwith View Post
... except when it doesn't. A coworker spent half an hour today trying to set up the printer in her brand new MB pro; it used to "just work" until a minor modification in our wireless network, and then it just stopped working and just wouldn't work no matter what she tried. In comparison, all the PCs that had initially required brief manual setup continued to work seamlessly in the new environment, because they were not auto-configured but set up with some thought in mind. This is just a tiny example -- I have tons of similar ones from everyday interactions. The general rule is that Apple's products often "just don't work" either due to lower competence of the users (that's why they bought Apple in the first place, to not have to learn), or because of counterintuitive software restrictions. But then there is always some geek around to help, and if not then there's Genius bars and whatnot...

And then the reality distortion field sets in -- and everything suddenly "just works" again.
iPhone 4's antenna just doesn't work. : (
 

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2010-10-20 , 09:09
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
THAT'S ILLEGAL! You can't give him an honorific! I am taking this moment to FORMALLY complain about this vicious and overreaching act!
You wouldn't DARE!


As for the topic at hand....
I love the part when he called TweetDeck, "TwitterDeck" (misnaming the product) and then went on to talk about how they were all up in arms about Android fragmentation. Shortly afterwards, the CEO of TweetDeck comes out to respond with, "Did we at any point say it was a nightmare developing on Android? Errr nope, no we didn't. It wasn't." and if you look at the original TweetDeck post that Jobs was erroneously referring to, it actually reads, "From our perspective it's pretty cool to have our app work on such a wide variety of devices and Android OS variations."

http://www.businessinsider.com/tweet...e-jobs-2010-10

Too... funny. But my FAVORITE part is when he called Windows an "open" OS. Hah!
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2010-10-20 , 09:14
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TwitterDeck!!! Android is fragmented I Love how he said it

I think he is right, though Windows is seems like a closed OS but it actually open Operating System. Think about it, anyone can write a program for Windows without needing any licensing and permission from MS. OpenSource community also wrote plently of applications for Windows. But the differences between Open OS and OpenSource OS is that OpenSource is act unter GNU licensing and which mean free source code if the developer working with GNU tools.
Windows apps that are not under GNU will be closed source and cannot be shared or borrow the code to use without permission from the owner of the source and usually he/she or they will not upload it to the net even requested.

Well that's what I think ahha anything else will be your own opinion, you can correct me if i'm wrong
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2010-10-20 , 09:29
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
TwitterDeck!!! Android is fragmented I Love how he said it

I think he is right, though Windows is seems like a closed OS but it actually open Operating System. Think about it, anyone can write a program for Windows without needing any licensing and permission from MS. OpenSource community also wrote plently of applications for Windows. But the differences between Open OS and OpenSource OS is that OpenSource is act unter GNU licensing and which mean free source code if the developer working with GNU tools.
Windows apps that are not under GNU will be closed source and cannot be shared or borrow the code to use without permission from the owner of the source and usually he/she or they will not upload it to the net even requested.

Well that's what I think ahha anything else will be your own opinion, you can correct me if i'm wrong
Android clearly needs a defrag app!

Just because you don't need a license to write a program for the OS, doesn't make it open. It makes the OS non-DRM'ed. Any OS that requires licensing to run apps is a DRM'ed OS, not just a closed operating system.
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2010-10-20 , 09:34
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Jobs is worth 40 Billion, he has opened up not only the concept of an app store, but the concept of a design ethic that all others are now trying to follow. He has opened a market for something that the worlds biggest software maker, MS, failed at many many times and no one else even tried to push seriously. The tablet PC. He has opened up multimedia devices and a form factor that everyone and his dog wished they could do and it is only natural people want to take a piece out of him. So Android is merely copying what he did and basing it loosely on open source. I say loosely as they chucked Android from the kernel a while back. It's natural that someone wants a piece of his 40 Billion wad of cash, a piece of a market he opened up. So he has the right to sound like an arrogant c*ck.

Not that I want or own anything from Apple as they're all sh*te.

Reading this thread however, makes me chuckle.

I can't stand Jobs for his attitude, the way he has developed a cult like following. Where people just won't hear anything said against their precious devices, the OS or the culture, even with the failings and drawbacks that make it worthless. And anyone that does criticise gets jibes and abuse from fanbois....

Wait a second, swap Apple for Maemo and it sounds a lot like this place.
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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
I can't stand Jobs for his attitude, the way he has developed a cult like following. Where people just won't hear anything said against their precious devices, the OS or the culture, even with the failings and drawbacks that make it worthless. And anyone that does criticise gets jibes and abuse from fanbois....

Wait a second, swap Apple for Maemo and it sounds a lot like this place.
HAHAHAH! Right? ....hey, waaaaaaaiiitamiiinit....

heheh
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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
Jobs is worth 40 Billion, he has opened up not only the concept of an app store.
No he didn't, my old Nokia had a 'download' section built-in before the iPhone came out.

I do admire Jobs on some levels, certainly he helped make computers 'easier' for end-users and Apple has made a big impact in technology that can't be denied. What I don't admire though is his Messiah attitude, claiming he invented all manner of things when he didn't, claiming Apple do things better (like multitasking) when they don't etc
 
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Originally Posted by Cue View Post
I disagree, it's not just a marketing slogan. I think being closed has one advantage and this is it.
I don't think that being closed directly makes 'things just work', but limiting variables certainly does.

At the very least, it generally make the components to get to the 'things just work' level much quicker than not.
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Originally Posted by richwhite View Post
I do admire Jobs on some levels, certainly he helped make computers 'easier' for end-users and Apple has made a big impact in technology that can't be denied.
Noooooo, most of what you're attributing to Apple was actually thanks to Xerox PARC.
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