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2010-10-27
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#42
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Originally Posted by plaban
I need to insert bq27x00_battery manually then power_supply folder will appear. Don't know why the module is not loaded at boot time.
There is no power_supply folder
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2010-10-27
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#43
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Originally Posted by plaban
i guess the kernel module that enabled the battery stuff isn't enabled by default. I thought power kernel installed it automatically.
There is no power_supply folder
Code:
root modprobe bq27x00_battery echo bq27x00_battery >> /etc/modules
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2010-10-27
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#44
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The module is NEVER (by default) loaded at boottime. This just bugs me because it's been known, and gone over in the Beautify Conky thread were Creamy Goodness was a participant. Power kernel does not automatically boot with that module enabled. You can make it boot by default by echoing it to the proper file:
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echo bq27x00_battery >> /etc/modules
Make sure to use >>, not >, because > will override the rest of the stuff in there. Not good.
Creamy Goodness: I like the idea of Conky using that module by default, but then it needs to either add it to the default modules loaded at boot, or check for it when launching, and modprobe it if necessary. I would recommend the latter, because there might be other bugs that could be caused by forcing the bq27x00_battery module on people who may be running a system that doesn't have it installed already or who have it disabled for other reasons.
(Or if you really want to go through coding hell the variables that can be queried with BME can be queried that way if the bq27x00_battery module isn't loaded when conky launches - but I realize that's a pain in the ***.)
(as root)
echo bq27x00_battery >> /etc/modules
Make sure to use >>, not >, because > will override the rest of the stuff in there. Not good.
Creamy Goodness: I like the idea of Conky using that module by default, but then it needs to either add it to the default modules loaded at boot, or check for it when launching, and modprobe it if necessary. I would recommend the latter, because there might be other bugs that could be caused by forcing the bq27x00_battery module on people who may be running a system that doesn't have it installed already or who have it disabled for other reasons.
(Or if you really want to go through coding hell the variables that can be queried with BME can be queried that way if the bq27x00_battery module isn't loaded when conky launches - but I realize that's a pain in the ***.)
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2010-10-27
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#45
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Now I can see temp.
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2010-10-27
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#46
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Just my own thoughts on this
Yes 
The problem is that extras devel has none of this real-time feedback
which lets us evolve a package in minutes rather than weeks.
Doing it in a thread like this puts the whole evolution complete
with all the hiccups, warts, and highlights right out where we can deal with it. Right now.
I wish there was some way the PTB could fix the devel to incorporate this somehow but having it in the forum gives it spontaneity.
And there will be those who get burnt - this is not for the faint-hearted
but there is no way to do this faster than simply getting the idea out the door
and letting the great unwashed get their feet muddy.
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
yes - I did and there were no issues with that
I will presuppose I need to uninstall repository-available conky before installing this version?
When you do push this to the repos, am I going to have to uninstall this version and install the repos one again?
(Honestly, wasn't this the reason we have Extras-Devel to begin with? I get that all the sheep flood to devel nowadays because that's where so many good apps stagnate due to flaws in the QA process, but the point is it's supposed to be okay to upload unfinished, unstable, might-brick-your-phone stuff to devel. And to tell people to frak off if they complain too much when extras-devel software does just that.)
which lets us evolve a package in minutes rather than weeks.
Doing it in a thread like this puts the whole evolution complete
with all the hiccups, warts, and highlights right out where we can deal with it. Right now.
I wish there was some way the PTB could fix the devel to incorporate this somehow but having it in the forum gives it spontaneity.
And there will be those who get burnt - this is not for the faint-hearted
but there is no way to do this faster than simply getting the idea out the door
and letting the great unwashed get their feet muddy.
At any rate, I'll test soon, but I would really, really prefer people stopped putting alpha software in thread links and only uploaded stuff to devel later. I'd be a lot more willing to test (and I'm not talking about your app only - I feel the same way about the new backup menu, etc) if that extra install-uninstall-install step was gone.
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2010-10-27
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#47
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Will any of those Conky.conf files from the beautify thread work for this version? There's some kewl stuff over there!
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2010-10-27
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The only thing is, having someone go "here's link to source and deb *link*, it's still experimental but it'd be great if those willing install and give bug reports" is essentially the same as saying "I uploaded this to devel - it's called *name* - it's still experimental, but install and give bug reports if you're willing".
The only difference is I either manually fetch the .deb, either directly with the N900 or from a computer which I then move to the N900, or I connect to internet from N900 and open up my app manager. The exact process of getting the installation is different - the discussion and bug reporting is the same.
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Les Garten: They MIGHT work. It depends on the exact config file. You should be able to convert the parts that don't work into parts that do in the config files and get them to work. (When I install my first test will be with my current .conf, and I'll go from there.) When this is complete and working properly, I see no reason why properly done config files from there wouldn't work in the new version. You'd just be able to cut out some of the "execi" shell commands and replace them with premade variables.
Last edited by Mentalist Traceur; 2010-10-27 at 19:21.
The only difference is I either manually fetch the .deb, either directly with the N900 or from a computer which I then move to the N900, or I connect to internet from N900 and open up my app manager. The exact process of getting the installation is different - the discussion and bug reporting is the same.
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Les Garten: They MIGHT work. It depends on the exact config file. You should be able to convert the parts that don't work into parts that do in the config files and get them to work. (When I install my first test will be with my current .conf, and I'll go from there.) When this is complete and working properly, I see no reason why properly done config files from there wouldn't work in the new version. You'd just be able to cut out some of the "execi" shell commands and replace them with premade variables.
Last edited by Mentalist Traceur; 2010-10-27 at 19:21.
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2010-10-27
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#49
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
not necessary
I will presuppose I need to uninstall repository-available conky before installing this version?
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
no, it will update it if i do it right
When you do push this to the repos, am I going to have to uninstall this version and install the repos one again?
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
i dunno man, look at google, is gmail out of beta yet? I can't update this in extras as there is no need for two conky versions in there, and if i replace the existing one, people will flip out if it doesn't work in some circumstances.
(Honestly, wasn't this the reason we have Extras-Devel to begin with? I get that all the sheep flood to devel nowadays because that's where so many good apps stagnate due to flaws in the QA process, but the point is it's supposed to be okay to upload unfinished, unstable, might-brick-your-phone stuff to devel. And to tell people to frak off if they complain too much when extras-devel software does just that.)
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
but how can i get anyone to test and find these problems if i don't post it somewhere? i made that garage project page first, and i've linked to it and included a huge warning that it might not work. please don't say it's "alpha", i took it as far as I could without flashing my device to re-test it!
At any rate, I'll test soon, but I would really, really prefer people stopped putting alpha software in thread links and only uploaded stuff to devel later. I'd be a lot more willing to test (and I'm not talking about your app only - I feel the same way about the new backup menu, etc) if that extra install-uninstall-install step was gone.
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness
Lead-On MacDuff!
not necessary
no, it will update it if i do it right
i dunno man, look at google, is gmail out of beta yet? I can't update this in extras as there is no need for two conky versions in there, and if i replace the existing one, people will flip out if it doesn't work in some circumstances.
but how can i get anyone to test and find these problems if i don't post it somewhere? i made that garage project page first, and i've linked to it and included a huge warning that it might not work. please don't say it's "alpha", i took it as far as I could without flashing my device to re-test it!
Anybody fooling around with something at this level pretty much understands what's going on here...
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
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Last edited by les_garten; 2010-10-27 at 19:59.
it was like a joke to make conky more beautiful and useful (see first few replies).
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