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2011-09-05 , 10:58
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Yes i agree totally and the very reason i am NOT a "fanboy" of WP but the problem is it IS coming and it is coming big time because of this Nokia venture.

I reserve judgement but nobody can deny that Microsoft and Noka wil give it the best they have got, as to how it will end up is the reason i reserve judgement obviously.
Nokia continues failing to instill confidence.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/23664..._unveiled.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/h...d-we-go-hands/
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While I agree that Maemo/MeeGo are whithering away, I really don't see how Windows Phone 7 will save the day. It's having a hard enough time trying to hop up and down for attention and shouting, "HEY! I'M RELEVANT TOO!! HEY! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" It seems to be doomed to go the way of the Zune itself: nice, but nobody really wants it and there are far more better choices out there.
We may dislike it. But with hell of marketing it may very well change. And also with help of "patent wars" were the biggest companys will start WAR with smaller once.

Samsung is not allowed to sell Galaxy Tab in German. This is only the start :-(

It may very well be the case why N9 is not sold in German/US too. Maybe its not only cause of Microsoft. Maybe it also cause N9 UI looks to much as Iphone....
 
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As for the N9, it does not stand a chance in hell of becoming anything but a complete flop just like it's prior device the N900.

This thread is complete condemnation of what COULD have been somethng if had not been dropped even before release.
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
As for the N9, it does not stand a chance in hell of becoming anything but a complete flop just like it's prior device the N900.

This thread is complete condemnation of what COULD have been somethng if had not been dropped even before release.
"Abill is a community troll and his existence is the bane of us."

Was that annoying?

Your two statements above were similarly annoying in it's lack of reasoning/backup on such strongly worded sentences.





Let's have a proper discussion or even debate. Backup your statements and talk things through with other members.
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Thats why you are so limited. I don't see the n900 as a flop. I see it like a great tech.
 

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"Abill is a community troll and his existence is the bane of us."Was that annoying?Your two statements above were similarly annoying in it's lack of reasoning/backup on such strongly worded sentences.
Let's have a proper discussion or even debate. Backup your statements and talk things through with other members.
Read the posts i am replying too and stop being an asshat ok or you will for sure go on my ignore list but this time for good .
 
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We may dislike it. But with hell of marketing it may very well change. And also with help of "patent wars" were the biggest companys will start WAR with smaller once.

Samsung is not allowed to sell Galaxy Tab in German. This is only the start :-(

It may very well be the case why N9 is not sold in German/US too. Maybe its not only cause of Microsoft. Maybe it also cause N9 UI looks to much as Iphone....
I sincerely doubt that a marketing push will help. Consider Windows Vista--for all the marketing it had, it failed to win any fans and the commercials were considered incredible blunders. Microsoft has never been known as a successful marketing company--only a good strong-arming litigant and known for winning through underhanded means, not by marketing (i.e.: these examples). Better still--consider, again, the Zune. It had a major marketing push--a very insistent one that backfired: on release day, they called the press together to announce the new ZUNE and asked all the members of the press at the event to throw their iPods into a bin in return for a brand spanking new ZUNE from Microsoft. NOBODY in that press event took them up on that offer and it turned into a PR disaster.

I strongly suspect that Microsoft will NOT be able to win this by marketing, no.
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Thats why you are so limited. I don't see the n900 as a flop. I see it like a great tech.
Hey hey hey! Calm down, you two! The N900 was BOTH a flop AS WELL AS great tech!

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Read the posts i am replying too and stop being an asshat ok or you will for sure go on my ignore list but this time for good .
Both of you really should just put each other on ignore and be done with it--or just simply stop replying to each other. There's really no point in going back and forth about it.
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I sincerely doubt that a marketing push will help. Consider Windows Vista--for all the marketing it had, it failed to win any fans and the commercials were considered incredible blunders. Microsoft has never been known as a successful marketing company--only a good strong-arming litigant and known for winning through underhanded means, not by marketing (i.e.: these examples). Better still--consider, again, the Zune. It had a major marketing push--a very insistent one that backfired: on release day, they called the press together to announce the new ZUNE and asked all the members of the press at the event to throw their iPods into a bin in return for a brand spanking new ZUNE from Microsoft. NOBODY in that press event took them up on that offer and it turned into a PR disaster.

I strongly suspect that Microsoft will NOT be able to win this by marketing, no.
Microsoft's days started with 95 then 98 and then 98SE, they were in the right place at the right time when nobody could offer such an adaptable OS.

Microsoft have really had there days and the only way they will sell this WP is out of the Nokia stable, it could well prove to be the end of both companies if the OS does not prove to an award winning development.

It is clear that Nokia held the world's trophy in device manufacturing untill it failed on the OS development side with Maemo and Meego.

It is going to be a very interesting year to follow from here on, a year from now will tell all i think.
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
As for the N9, it does not stand a chance in hell of becoming anything but a complete flop just like it's prior device the N900.

This thread is complete condemnation of what COULD have been somethng if had not been dropped even before release.
You really are wrong person too trust in this case.

Next week you will say Maemo5 still alive.

Funny is you dont have a clue what your talking about.

Your so called "sources" may very well lie to you and probadly make fun of it at the end.

Your posts is more and more ridiculous for every post in this thread.

Last week you said you should sell N9 to people on this forum. Who the HELL will buy devices from you when you a week later spaming in the same thread saying N9 is dead!? :-O :-O

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