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so if eldar is right this time and if there are really 92000 units of the RM680 maybe nokia will sell these units too. i mean how many of these will they give to devs? 1000 or more. Even if it’s more what will happen to the remaining units? maybe there will be a „Limited Edition“ of the rm-680, who knows?!

there was only 1 "disruptive" device from apple, and that was the first iphone. very poor hardware but a very smooth and easy to use ui with a big touch screen. thats all, the hardware was crap. and they didnt had an app store or a sdk at the beginning. and all other phone were just refresh versions of the first 1 (getting 3G and later a little bit more speed), iphone4 is the first real smartphone in my eyes. simple and nice ui + perfect marketing = big success.

@disruption:
the first and last situation nokia used this word was in one sentence with meego/maemo. so its very likely that we will see this "future disruption" device with maemo inside

6 days left...

may i correct you?

5 days, 9 hours and 50 min left

This could be hope for us HW KB users. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I blame symbian on this not meego...

Remember that the plan has always been to release a non fully but "compatible" handset namely Maemo Harmattan. its more like symbian and Qt proogress slowed it down not mainly because of meego. Ofcourse that also is a problem but far from the biggest problems...

well I am glad if am am wrong then. But just got that feeling
when following mailinglists..the sometimes seems to be hard feelings...

btw I diid NOT SAY qgill got kicked or similar...

So well, if its not even named it will take a half year more before "announcement" then a year after there maybe will be a release...

Q2 2012 we have the device WOHO!!!

Except Elop said back in February that he was using Meego for future disruptions. So if they are pitching it as a market disrupting device it is not unreasonable to expect it to be Meego. And consider what exactly is disruptive about a WP7 device, it is not like it would be the first WP7 device anyway.

There seems to be a lot of confusion going on here. I'd like to add to that confusion by giving my theory of what is going on, based on the information I've gathered from this thread, mailing lists and things I hear from Nokians.

This is what I take as commonly believed fact:
1. "Dali", aka N9 was to be released late last year but was scrapped in the last minute for one reason or another. Dali runs Maemo 6 aka Harmattan. Some thousands of these were built before it was scrapped. Nokia wants to do something with these devices. Exactly what or how they will be used will most likely become clear the 21th. The term "Developer device" has been thrown around.

2. "Lankku" is a device that exists at least as a prototype, and claims have been made that this one will be produced for consumers. Lankku also runs Harmattan. Produced for consumers means much more of these will be produced than the Dali device. Apparently "Lankku" has faster hardware and no keyboard and is thin and beautiful. This device has not been leaked.

This is what I think will happen on the 21th:
Nokia will unveil Harmattan, Harmattan SDK will be released, a developer device program will be announced and information about when to expect the consumer device will be given. My guess is Q3-2011. But the device won't be in consumers hands before late November.

Regarding some other nonsense:
The number 92000 devices that people are talking about sounds somewhat plausible for the amount of Dali devices that were produced before it was scrapped. Obviously Nokia would not decide beforehand exactly how many devices would be produced. That depends on if they sell etc.


EDIT one more thing, I think that the Dali devices will be available for the developers very soon. They want development to happen before the consumer device is out.

EDIT2 The event is in Singapore not in Australia. Here's the schedule: http://www.nokiaconnection.net/event.php