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2009-12-02
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Thank you for the nice replies everyone!, i must admit i have done a lot of research and really looked into the device, as i have previously said, i don't understand a lot of what it can do, and don't understand the proffesional side of it, but i'm looking forward to learning, i know it has bugs, and issues, and trust me after having my blackberry, i can handle bugs and issues. i've been patiently waiting and visiting the forums, joined the community, watched the videos, and i can't wait to get my gruby little mits on it. I'm not stupid enough to compare it to my iphone, but i'm sick of everyone having one, sick of everyone pointing out how great and wonderfull it is, but never pointing out the faults (proffesional reviewers, magazines) are also guilty of this. Don't get me wrong, i love my iphone, and i may even keep it, but i will embrace nokia, and the N900 and i will get as involved with the community as much as i can and give my 2 cents worth. all in all, i can't wait
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2009-12-02
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To be fair, my wife has an iPhone 3GS. She had a normal iPhone before that. She loves it. It's perfect for her and what she does. I never bought one though because it was selling itself short for me. It didn't have a shell, it didnt have ssh server/client. It didn't have Perl. It didn't (doesn't I should say for all of these) have a cisco vpn client. It doesnt have multi-tasking.
All these things the N900 DOES have, and for an IT professional, they are INVALUABLE.
All these things the N900 DOES have, and for an IT professional, they are INVALUABLE.
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If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by mrojas
I like that, but how about Morgan Freeman as User B. He looks at User A and says,
I have a techie commercial in mind. User A with crap-phone is struggling in his day job, user B (the OP) comes in and does what he wrote in the first post to the utter amazement of the other guy. User A looks at him and User B says "It's Maemo".
Cue Nokia logo and fade to black.
(So basically everytime the N900 does something amazing you just explain with the "It's Maemo" line).
"Didn't you get the Maemo?"
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok
For $.99, install TouchTerm on your wife's 3GS. In a pinch, you'll be able to ssh into all of your boxes. It even has a user level password for secure convenience; you'd be safe even from your wife.
To be fair, my wife has an iPhone 3GS. She had a normal iPhone before that. She loves it. It's perfect for her and what she does. I never bought one though because it was selling itself short for me. It didn't have a shell, it didnt have ssh server/client. It didn't have Perl. It didn't (doesn't I should say for all of these) have a cisco vpn client. It doesnt have multi-tasking.
All these things the N900 DOES have, and for an IT professional, they are INVALUABLE.
A very good app and I highly recommend it. There's also a deluxe version for hardcores like yourself.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by daperl
Where's their Cisco VPN client? All that's for naught otherwise.
For $.99, install TouchTerm on your wife's 3GS. In a pinch, you'll be able to ssh into all of your boxes. It even has a user level password for secure convenience; you'd be safe even from your wife.
Also, where's Perl? Where's their shell? A *nix shell is extremely powerful, even from a basic navigation + workload point of view. The scripting I can do on the Nokia will remain unsurpassed until someone builds a true shell on another phone.
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If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
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2009-12-02
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Laughingstok: welcome to Maemo. Us geeks have been doing this kind of crap for a few years on the tablets, but the N900 has gone and made geeky sexy.
If you want more Standard Desktop Linux stuff, I suggest installing Easy Debian from the extras-devel repository. This puts an image file with a standard Debian Lenny rootfs in MyDocs and you can easily chroot in and run all of the usual stuff you can get from the Debian repos, including full perl and all the server software. Complex GUI-based apps tend to get pretty mangled by the phone's finger-friendly UI at the moment, but command-line stuff (and simple GUI stuff) works great.
It also seems like a good thread to repost my True Geek's XTerm configuration screenshot:
If you want more Standard Desktop Linux stuff, I suggest installing Easy Debian from the extras-devel repository. This puts an image file with a standard Debian Lenny rootfs in MyDocs and you can easily chroot in and run all of the usual stuff you can get from the Debian repos, including full perl and all the server software. Complex GUI-based apps tend to get pretty mangled by the phone's finger-friendly UI at the moment, but command-line stuff (and simple GUI stuff) works great.
It also seems like a good thread to repost my True Geek's XTerm configuration screenshot:
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by Barts
My thoughts, EXACTLY! I really don't care about all the missing apps many people over talking about, I've been waiting for nokia to release a nice cellphone with a good web experience. Before I was going for N97 but didn't buy it after reading all the reviews but now I'm keen on buying N900 ASAP! I've been on this forum as an observer and have red many reviews about N900, I know what i'm going into and don't have all high expectations etc. Like you, I'm new to Linux, in fact I installed ubuntu just to learn about Linux and how it works, after knowing that N900 is linux-based. I really have no clue about SSH or VNC etc but look into it after I get my device.
i'm a complete novice and have no idea what most of you are on about, this phone can do so many things that i would never use and seems to not be able to do things that i can do on my Iphone. But i don't care, i'm buying one anyway, the web in my pocket is all i care about, as long as i cand send texts and recieve/make calls, don't particularly give a damn about custom ring tones or mms, i've used mms about twice in 4 years. I'm really intruiged about the community side of it too, and hopefully i'll get to grips with what the phone is capable of doing, even though i'm no techie/ I have music, video capabilities, camera, full proper web browsing. with a phone (it's only my wife that calls me anyway), what more could you ask for!!, apart from 100,000 apps, of which 98,000 aren't downloaded
I didn't pre-order n900 but my local cellphone shop will have few N900s arriving today and I'm probably gonna be picking up one tomorrow. I'm just hoping I won't get a faulty unit =/. Other than that I am sure I will enjoy my new phone. And Oh I have N82 as of now.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by daperl
Oh, I meant that Nokia should at least put Maemo, phone-feature and UI wise, on par with the competitors (MMS, voice dialing, etc).
I know I'm being picky, but Nokia will only be half of the success story here. The OpenSSH apps that the OP is using are not supplied by Nokia. 99% of my tablet usage is with apps that Nokia doesn't supply. It's an important point because the community can supply fixes down to the kernel level. I could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Android can say that.
Everything else it's on the community. The Cisco VPN client + RDP/MicroB (yeah it's compatible with Cisco appliances!)/ssh/Easy Debian for productivity apps has saved my hide many, many times...
I remember one time I was partying with some tech colleagues, and we got a call due to a server problem, they were thinking "Nooo back to the office), and I said "Wait a second", pulled out my N800, tethered it to my E71, VPN + RDP and solved the issue in 5 minutes. That's when I debuted my "It's Maemo" line
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by Texrat
As it's targetting skillful users first e.g. IT professionals, system administrators etc, I agree. N900 isn't really iPhone territory, but the Maemo6 device is likely to be targetting that device to a higher degree. I would say it's BB and Win Mo competition, for "corporate solutions." Furthermore, as Kallasvuo said today at the Financial community day the phone is open source, so companies, and carriers can add their own app's and tailoring.
Laughingstock, you bring up a very good point.
Blackberries are more the target for N900 aspirations than iPhones. If the N900 can gain corporate interest and then adoption, local IT staff can insulate average users from the device complexities.
The N900 is more of a step up from Blackberries than iPhones. This thread just drove that home for me.
However, I've done a poll here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35033, and if the results would be representative of the actual previous platforms of the buyers "defecting" to the maemo based N900, then BlackBerry and WinMo customers are a tiny group.
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2009-12-02
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Hey guys, Im a newbie!! Ordered my N900, and should be receiving it tomorrow! Hopefully UPS will stop playing with my emotions. HAHA
But really, I have done my research on this phone, read forums and watched videos about the phone. Just like barts, I know nothing about Linux or the full capabilities of the phone, but I am willing to learn. I like the phone because it does everything I want to do, most importantly I have email and internet on the go, without having to carry other devices. I know my expectations of the phone. As long as there are no dead pixels and everything works perfectly, I doubt I will be having issues with this phone....
But really, I have done my research on this phone, read forums and watched videos about the phone. Just like barts, I know nothing about Linux or the full capabilities of the phone, but I am willing to learn. I like the phone because it does everything I want to do, most importantly I have email and internet on the go, without having to carry other devices. I know my expectations of the phone. As long as there are no dead pixels and everything works perfectly, I doubt I will be having issues with this phone....
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