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Originally Posted by daperl
I read somewhere that part of the upgrade problems people (on non-jailbroken iPhones) were due to apps causing probems.
Anyway, I have my irons in many fires, but because of the relatively tight coupling of hardware and software, I like to keep my Apple products closely compatible with the mother ship. I rely on these products, and I want to give Apple the least opportunity to intentionally or unintentionally break them. Did you listen to Steve Jobs' last keynote? He gave his three reasons why apps get rejected from the App Store. One of them was because of people using private APIs. Well, sometimes I like to dip into those private APIs, and it usually is as easy as circumventing an #ifdef. I could go on, but I hope you get the picture.
Which I thought was strange..since Apple approves every app themselves.
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2010-06-22
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So how do you find the multitasking? the fact that you have to long press the screen to get the "minus" singn to be able to close the apps looks very clumsy compared to maemo? any way to have that minus in an always on stance?
Alright! thanks imperiallight, now I'm really set to go
I know I'm really really stretching it, but, is it possible to have widgets? I saw there's something for the iPod app, but it doesn't seem to be movable/dragable on the icon screens. This ain't one of my top priorities but it's a nice thing to have. Any hacks for this?
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Alright! thanks imperiallight, now I'm really set to go
I know I'm really really stretching it, but, is it possible to have widgets? I saw there's something for the iPod app, but it doesn't seem to be movable/dragable on the icon screens. This ain't one of my top priorities but it's a nice thing to have. Any hacks for this?
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Originally Posted by Bec
If you use an iPhone then I doubt the minus would be a problem. That's the same way apps are deleted so it's been that way for a while. Not saying it's the most intuitive or anything, I'm just saying a regular user wouldn't have that issue
So how do you find the multitasking? the fact that you have to long press the screen to get the "minus" singn to be able to close the apps looks very clumsy compared to maemo? any way to have that minus in an always on stance?
EDIT: It is not a long press. It is a double press.
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So how do you find the multitasking? the fact that you have to long press the screen to get the "minus" singn to be able to close the apps looks very clumsy compared to maemo? any way to have that minus in an always on stance?
But using the Home button is OK. Having to long press is not ideal but it allows you to use a short press for another function.
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@nosa101: yeah, but closing an app is something that you'd do multiple times a day, as opposed to the occasional app deletion. Thankfully, there is a mod for this (jailbreak needed)...
@bec: there are a couple of apps for lock screen info/widgets.. not desktop-like though. back then (when I cared), the best one was IntelliScreen.
@bec: there are a couple of apps for lock screen info/widgets.. not desktop-like though. back then (when I cared), the best one was IntelliScreen.
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I know most people here won't agree but I like the way apple enforced multitasking. There really are apps that don't diserve an execution thread while backgrounded. The third party apps free the multitasking completley I think so I'll probably stick to the default way for starters and see how the battery behaves.
I dont mind the button, I don't like the fact that you have to press the screen for a few secs to be able to close multiple ones at a time. The red minus should be shown by default imho. I'm sure this will be adressed one way or another though.
I dont mind the button, I don't like the fact that you have to press the screen for a few secs to be able to close multiple ones at a time. The red minus should be shown by default imho. I'm sure this will be adressed one way or another though.
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Originally Posted by Bec
There's nothing wrong with it, in fact it's quite clever. I'd have no issues with making it available on Linux, though it would take a decent amount of work.
I know most people here won't agree but I like the way apple enforced multitasking. There really are apps that don't diserve an execution thread while backgrounded.
Beyond that, I'd like it more if it were possible for the user to say "I'm going to override you, OS, and require this app be allowed to run regardless."
Only downside thus far is it makes cross platform software more difficult if you target the iPhone and want to make use of it.
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Yup, I very often watch various stuff, get bored an check my email or im while video is runing in backgroud, then when I hear the action going up again I switch back to the video
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@bec: if IM is important, you might want to wait a bit to see how the new OS improves upon it. Currently IM takes quite awhile to switch back/forth. Everytime the app is started, it takes 2-3 secs to initialize and reconnects to the proxy server to download the changes (all the new msgs) you get while it's backgrounded.
AFAIK the new multitasking implementation does not allow for continuous connection to be maintained in the background, so the main improvement/acceleration that IM apps will gain from OS4 will be just the software initialization time. This affects IM and apps like RSS/Twitters. The latter isn't too problematic, since you don't usually go in/out of those kind of apps anyway.
Of course you can make them run full time in the background with jailbroken tools, but they drain the battery.
PS: Two good IM apps to watch on iPhone: BeeJive and IM+
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AFAIK the new multitasking implementation does not allow for continuous connection to be maintained in the background, so the main improvement/acceleration that IM apps will gain from OS4 will be just the software initialization time. This affects IM and apps like RSS/Twitters. The latter isn't too problematic, since you don't usually go in/out of those kind of apps anyway.
Of course you can make them run full time in the background with jailbroken tools, but they drain the battery.
PS: Two good IM apps to watch on iPhone: BeeJive and IM+
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