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mve is offline mve
2009-10-22 , 12:17
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#51
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Drink !

I wish we could get some feedback how many people ACTUALLY used their devices in portrait mode. We all heard the stories of people's theories why they want portrait mode. I, however, as an independent developer, would like to see the hard cold stats data, not the thought-up use-cases, anecdotal evidence and educated guesses
As a happy preproduction device user I have not found any real need for portrait mode but I can see some use cases for web browser and media player. And as we currently know it's already coming for browser so I'm also pretty sure that at some point we can see it also in media player.
 
mdl is offline mdl
2009-10-22 , 12:18
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#52
Now I think I'm going to cancel my order and wait until the Qi Nanonote gets upgraded from 32 MB to 64 MB of RAM at some unspecified date next year.

Seriously, Nokia may be right to be cautious here, but the contrast with Apple couldn't be more stark. Apple announces release dates and has people lining up outside of Apple stores days in advance. I'm not saying that Nokia would get a similar response, but following through on an announced release date does wonders for consumer morale.
 
range is offline range
2009-10-22 , 12:20
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#53
Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
The other good thing about the delay is that more developers can push their stuff into Extras.
Well. That's about the only good thing I can see so far

But yeah, while I could live with a device which has bugs (hey, at least I can report them), for the "masses" a more bug free device is better.

But hurry up! My n800 is broken and my phone's battery wants to be replaced!
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:22
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#54
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Drink !

I wish we could get some feedback how many people ACTUALLY used their devices in portrait mode. We all heard the stories of people's theories why they want portrait mode. I, however, as an independent developer, would like to see the hard cold stats data, not the thought-up use-cases, anecdotal evidence and educated guesses
Cheers!

Especially as I have an iPod touch at the moment with which I can play around - and that is missing landscape mode in many situations where I don't want portrait mode (or it does something different in landscape than in portrait mode).

There are at least two brainstorms about portrait mode, none of them seems to generate real traction much less are there sane suggestions on how some problematic areas could work.
 
range is offline range
2009-10-22 , 12:24
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#55
Originally Posted by hbghbg View Post
I hate this news, compared with iphone , I can't see any hope from NOKIA!
Which news? That the phone is delayed? But what does that have to do with the iphone? And where is landscape mode in the iphone? Yes, it is there on a *per application basis* as portrait mode is available on the n900 on a *per application basis*

The home screen of the ipod touch does *not* go into landscape mode when you rotate the device.
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:24
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#56
Originally Posted by mve View Post
As a happy preproduction device user I have not found any real need for portrait mode but I can see some use cases for web browser and media player. And as we currently know it's already coming for browser so I'm also pretty sure that at some point we can see it also in media player.
It is an issue of therblig motion and operational failure (fancy talk for people dropping a device). From a therblig standpoint, landscape is counter-intuitive for one hand operation and less balance.

If you try the device with one hand while texting or other operations that you do not want the KB open and would rather use the screen, it is a very big issue and will hurt the N900- IF they are also targeting smart phones users.

If Nokia is only targeting devs and tablet users, no harm no foul. I think that due to their pricing (device seems lower cost for what you get), they are targeting more than those folks.

They want smart phone users, but do not yet have the basic functions most smart phoners use all the time.

I expect Nokia to correct this issue quickly.
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:25
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#57
Originally Posted by hbghbg View Post
I guess , maybe some NOKIA's employee in this forum will write some words to explain or do other things that benefit NOKIA. but I am really disappointed!!
Some words about what?
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:25
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#58
I don't get why people are angry about the delay.

I am sure Apple's iPhone was internally delayed several times.
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:31
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Originally Posted by anidel View Post
I don't get why people are angry about the delay.

I am sure Apple's iPhone was internally delayed several times.
Yes. But that does not build up that much anticipation. If you don't know that a device will be shipping soon, you won't care about that. But when you are told that the phone will ship in October and see delivery dates change in the shop, I can understand that people get agitated.

The release now is one month behind what the Nokia Shop stated as the release date at the beginning of September.

And yes, I too want that phone. Rather sooner than later. But I can wait it out.
 
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2009-10-22 , 12:32
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Originally Posted by anidel View Post
I don't get why people are angry about the delay.

I am sure Apple's iPhone was internally delayed several times.
Yep! Screen was a big issue. My best friend works in upper levels of Corning glass and they supply the glass for the iPhone. Their delays were more due to hardware (such as balancing glass toughness versus cost).

iPhone glass still cracks a lot, but is actually a very tough glass (tough for glass of course).
 
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