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Originally Posted by cb474
The extra thickness of the N900 is in the bottom part of the slide that has the keyboard in it. The top parts with the screens are the same thickness on the N97 and N900.
Is the higher performance processor so much bigger to account for a 20% volume difference from the N97? Even though the N97 has a larger battery and a more complex sliding mechanism? There are things that are bigger in the N97 too. To me it just doesn't add up to accounting for a 20% volume difference on the two devices.
It seems to me like people have just decided that the N900 could not possibly have been otherwise. Nokia in its divine and infallible wisdom made the only design they could have possibly made, with the given components, and all things are prefect, because it is the best of all possible worlds.
Don't get me wrong either. I like the N900. I don't care about the thickness as far as handling the device goes. It seems more like a concern for pocketability, since this is after supposed to be a phone after all. But I am curious why it's so thick, when other Nokia devices with extremely similar components and some larger components are considerably smaller and thinner.
Unfortunately, this topic is not going to go anywhere on this forum. The fanboy's don't even want to admit that the N900 could be considered 'thick' lol.
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
Such an easy way to quickly dismiss an opposing argument. Attitudes like this are why discussions can't go anywhere.
The fanboy's don't even want to admit that the N900 could be considered 'thick' lol.
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
If the stylus was the one thing that kept a bigger battery out of the N900, I'm betting it would have been sacrificed.
Look at how Nokia released the n95 NAM model. Its essentially the same size as the original n95 but with BL-6F 1200 mAh which is slighly larger battery instead of the BL-5F 950 mAh.
If Nokia can squeeze the BP-4L into the E71 and n97 (which doesn't hold the stylus) then I'm sure the Nokia engineers could have achieved this.
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Originally Posted by Texrat
yes. replaced by a toothpick. like a swiss army knife.
If the stylus was the one thing that kept a bigger battery out of the N900, I'm betting it would have been sacrificed.
what is the physical keyboard wasnt mechanic but electronic. it couldve been thinner.
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
Funnily enough I do not own an N900 yet so cannot possibly comment if its thick or not. You cannot tell just from photos and information about the dimensions how it ACTUALLY feels in your hands/pocket.
Unfortunately, this topic is not going to go anywhere on this forum. The fanboy's don't even want to admit that the N900 could be considered 'thick' lol.
Originally Posted by r0eladn
What a horrible idea though.
yes. replaced by a toothpick. like a swiss army knife.
what is the physical keyboard wasnt mechanic but electronic. it couldve been thinner.
One of my big complaints about the Xperia X1 was problems with the mechanical keyboard not having enough tactile feedback and when it did, the buttons did not always register so it was misleading. I prefer my keys to have a definite click so you know it registered your key press, you can type quicker then.
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n900 =/= thick (to me at least)
Nintendo DS = thick
Nintendo DS = thick
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As long as the battery life is better than my Palm Pre (Sprint) I will be satisfied.
I was not going to jump on the N900 because of the lack of 3G coverage where I live. However, with the recent plan changes/price drops at T-Mobile, I can live without 3G at home because I use Wifi there.
Cant wait to get my hands on my N900. It has been a horrible experience with the Palm Pre as I came fro the iPhone before that. Not saying the iPhone is the best, but it kills the Pre in all areas. I have also been very depressed with Palms upgrades, build quality and support.
I will miss the Pre's universal search capability. Does Nokia/Maemo have plans to incorporate this into the N900?
I was not going to jump on the N900 because of the lack of 3G coverage where I live. However, with the recent plan changes/price drops at T-Mobile, I can live without 3G at home because I use Wifi there.
Cant wait to get my hands on my N900. It has been a horrible experience with the Palm Pre as I came fro the iPhone before that. Not saying the iPhone is the best, but it kills the Pre in all areas. I have also been very depressed with Palms upgrades, build quality and support.
I will miss the Pre's universal search capability. Does Nokia/Maemo have plans to incorporate this into the N900?
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Originally Posted by maven1975
Sorry, I just have to disagree. I just switched from a 30 day trial of the Pre to the iPhone, and I really, really miss the Pre.
Cant wait to get my hands on my N900. It has been a horrible experience with the Palm Pre as I came fro the iPhone before that. Not saying the iPhone is the best, but it kills the Pre in all areas. I have also been very depressed with Palms upgrades, build quality and support.
Multitasking alone makes it worlds above the iPhone to me. I also miss the physical keyboard, and better mail handling. I had zero issue with build quality or support. I want to try the N900, but if I don't like it, it's back to the Pre for me. The iPhone is definitely being returned.
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I have had FIVE Pre's , three of them died because the headphone jack failed and locked it into speakerphone mode. One of them just up and died. Seriously poor quality for these days. I do like the Pre's form factor, but the battery life is horrid.
I also find the gestures absolutely awesome. Multitasking is great, but the Pre has lag issues that are well documented. If they would just use the damn hardware thats inside the phone (GPU), it would help offload tasks and free up the CPU to do other things.
Honestly, while the iPhone doesn't multitask like the Pre, about the only way the Pre uses multitasking well is when you use Pandora and Nav at the same time. Even then, the Pre lags beyond acceptable levels when this is done.
The browser does allow you to have multiple cards up at the same time, but Safari has multiple pages as well. Cards are nice, but you still have to switch between them. And don't get me started on the Calendar.. absolutely unacceptable lag.
Palms App store will remain a joke until they refine the SDK. Hopefully, with the recent acquisition of a former AMD graphics engineer, the SDK will be enhanced in about 6-12 months.
I wanted to believe in Palm, but it seems they are settling in the mass market arena, extremely disappointing those of us thinking they would push the envelope.
IDK, iPhone is a great device because of its simplistic design. However Apple is too controlling with the device and the OS is showing its age.
The Pre has/had serious potential, (Form Factor, Cards). Palm, with its lack of attention to WebOS, is doing everything to kill interest in the platform. Sure this is not intentional, but its giving the other guys time to 1up them before they get it right.
Nokia is new to me. I have never owned one of their phones, but I seriously look forward to my N900.
Please don't take this as an attack, but after almost five months with the Pre, I know the good, bad and ugly.
I also find the gestures absolutely awesome. Multitasking is great, but the Pre has lag issues that are well documented. If they would just use the damn hardware thats inside the phone (GPU), it would help offload tasks and free up the CPU to do other things.
Honestly, while the iPhone doesn't multitask like the Pre, about the only way the Pre uses multitasking well is when you use Pandora and Nav at the same time. Even then, the Pre lags beyond acceptable levels when this is done.
The browser does allow you to have multiple cards up at the same time, but Safari has multiple pages as well. Cards are nice, but you still have to switch between them. And don't get me started on the Calendar.. absolutely unacceptable lag.
Palms App store will remain a joke until they refine the SDK. Hopefully, with the recent acquisition of a former AMD graphics engineer, the SDK will be enhanced in about 6-12 months.
I wanted to believe in Palm, but it seems they are settling in the mass market arena, extremely disappointing those of us thinking they would push the envelope.
IDK, iPhone is a great device because of its simplistic design. However Apple is too controlling with the device and the OS is showing its age.
The Pre has/had serious potential, (Form Factor, Cards). Palm, with its lack of attention to WebOS, is doing everything to kill interest in the platform. Sure this is not intentional, but its giving the other guys time to 1up them before they get it right.
Nokia is new to me. I have never owned one of their phones, but I seriously look forward to my N900.
Please don't take this as an attack, but after almost five months with the Pre, I know the good, bad and ugly.
Is the higher performance processor so much bigger to account for a 20% volume difference from the N97? Even though the N97 has a larger battery and a more complex sliding mechanism? There are things that are bigger in the N97 too. To me it just doesn't add up to accounting for a 20% volume difference on the two devices.
It seems to me like people have just decided that the N900 could not possibly have been otherwise. Nokia in its divine and infallible wisdom made the only design they could have possibly made, with the given components, and all things are prefect, because it is the best of all possible worlds.
Don't get me wrong either. I like the N900. I don't care about the thickness as far as handling the device goes. It seems more like a concern for pocketability, since this is after all supposed to be a phone. But I am curious why it's so thick, when other Nokia devices with extremely similar components and some larger components are considerably smaller and thinner. All of the reasons people have offered so far are pretty easy to discount.
Last edited by cb474; 2009-11-01 at 06:02.