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2009-11-26 , 18:06
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#51
Originally Posted by Untouchab1e View Post
Lastly, consider if Nokia actually used this argument to wave off all criticism. "Its not a phone", when they advertise it as a phone and even compare it to the N97 and N86 on their websites. I dont think unhappy customers would accept that kind of reasoning and it would actually be an illegal advertisement.

The N900 merge a tablet with a phone, making it both.
Yes. It has phone capabilities. I don't think Nokia is saying that it is not a phone.

But it's a bit like saying that the N900 is a mp3 player.

Well, yes. It plays mp3's. In a ok manner.

No, I wouldn't still use that statement too much. Nokia calls it a mobile computer. That statement is rather meaningful, to indicate the primary intended focus.

There are better phones out there. Nokia makes them, also.
 

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Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
At least in my books the N900 is a far better internet tablet than any of the previous Maemo devices. Better browsing experience, better communication experience for email and chat, better support for various internet services.
...smaller screen that makes my eyes ache...
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2009-11-26 , 18:14
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Originally Posted by joppu View Post
It's a bit sad to see people posting about "lack of MMS" "crippled phone functionality" "lack of profiles" "bad calendar" "missing bluetooth profiles". The reviews highlight how "bulky" and "heavy" it is.

It's not a phone and it's never meant to be. The N900 continues the Internet Tablet heritage and just having a cellular radio does not suddenly make it a phone. After all, all official Nokia sites use the term "Mobile Computer", not a "Smartphone". It's not even marketed as a phone. Everyone just has gotten the idea that it's the Nokia's new "flagship" phone. Perhaps because the model number so so much higher than the N97?

For anyone looking for the next Nokia Flagship phone should stick to the N97 (now that most of it's bugs are ironed out) and potentially buy the next Maemo device in the product line equipped with general customer ready Maemo 6 Operating System when it's out.

For anyone "geekish" person who loves the Open Source fundamentally of the device will love it, having access to x-terminal and the ease of developing software for it. Also the great browser and messaging are included.

But your basic customer who has used Symbian it's a whole different thing. They expect N900 to have every single same feature as the Symbian platform. And they expect it to work in the same exact way as Symbian.

Symbian is a phone OS that has been in development for since the 90's. Maemo is a mobile internet device OS that has been in development since 2005 (?) and the phone functionality was added only in latest version. You can't even compare them one to another!

As conclusion, the N900 is an Internet Tablet/Mobile computer with an added cellular radio.

So, When you go ask a geek about his his new phone, you'll be likely to hear "It's not a phone, it's a GNU/Linux based mobile computer with phone functionality" in a high voice
I think this is a useful perspective and I appreciate the point you were trying to make. However, you probably should have said that the N900 is not defined by being a phone. In other words, the paradigm is different. Being a phone is only one aspect of the N900, and not necessarily the most dominant aspect. (But is is an important aspect.)

This is a mobile computer that is sprouting phone capabilities. Therefore, it inherently has more potential power than a phone that tries to tack on some computing features. But its phone capabilities need to mature a little more (for some users). (For me, they are fine!)
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2009-11-26 , 18:24
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#54
To all those, who constantly bash on missing features and all that:

For gods sake you don't have to buy the freaking thing! Nobody's forcing you to do so.

Just go looking for something else, if you don't like it. Wtf is wrong with you, get a hobby or something. -.-
 
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2009-11-26 , 18:29
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#55
Originally Posted by joppu View Post

It's not a phone and it's never meant to be. The N900 continues the Internet Tablet heritage and just having a cellular radio does not suddenly make it a phone. After all, all official Nokia sites use the term "Mobile Computer", not a "Smartphone". It's not even marketed as a phone.

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As conclusion, the N900 is an Internet Tablet/Mobile computer with an added cellular radio.
The above is your opinion and doesn't have to be shared by others - it's certainly not important enough to open a thread about.
Personally, to me, the N900 is indeed a phone. The screen size change alone was, to me, a big step away from a tablet - and towards the focus being on phone-use.

To each his own though.
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After two weeks of use, I do agree that this is a computer that has a lot of features, one amongst them being a phone. The phone is not any more important than any other part of the device. It's just another application like the rest.
All other devices started as a phone, and then it has everything else added. None of the addons for these "phones with addons" are great.
The difference is that the N900 does most applications better than other phones, and it's phone application is quite good, but not great, which is what you find from the "phones with addons".
What blows people's minds, is that this is the first device to NOT put the phone on the almighty pedestal, but make it equal to the other applications on the device. The iphone sort of did this, but it's still a phone first.
 
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Maybe you lot should follow my lead and rather than calling it a "mobile computer", "phone", "handheld netbook" or whatever else you wish to classify it as, simply call it "an N900".

If this sounds silly, consider:
Hoover:Vacuum
iPod:Mp3 Player
Thermos:Vacuum Flask
Popsicle:Frozen Ice on a Stick
Sharpie:Permanent Marker
Discman:Portable CD player
Walkman:Portable Cassette Player

And so on and so forth...
 
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2009-11-27 , 03:12
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one more minor thing that bugs me is the inability to sort my web bookmarks alphabetically. They appear in a totally random order. That is a sign of being unfinished regardless of what we call the 900.
 

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2009-11-27 , 03:19
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
I carry two phones: Work phone, private phone. I plan to replace one of them. As a phone.
The N900 is so open and versatile that there's undoubtedly a way to replace both of your old phones with it.

A small matter of programming
 
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2009-11-27 , 03:25
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Personally I wouldn't be interested in the N900 if it wasn't a phone as well as a phone-sized modern-programmer-friendly computer.

Shame the phone functionality isn't as good as some other modern phones in some respects, but I'm definitely going to use it more for phone calls and messaging than anything else I do with it :-)
 
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