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2007-01-14 , 20:20
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Mr Pedantic here! The 770 became available in November 2005 and became (potentially) obsolete (though I disagree with that - for now) in January 2006 so that means it had a 14 month life span (and may yet continue for many more months to come!)
I note that although Apple abandoned the Newton message pad shortly after the 2100 upgrade, I today installed a new version of the Connection Utilities released three weeks ago. The lifespan of a device depends on the work of those who enjoy it.
 
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2007-01-24 , 11:41
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Carlos has created a Garage project now:

http://os2007on770.garage.maemo.org/
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/
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2007-01-24 , 13:18
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Yep, and there's some nice things to be had over at solid.gold.code too. The 770 is very much alive, and there are still people in the world just finding out about its existance. These devices are likely the only ones that are made better, through software and documentation, as more and more people get to know them and the community surrounding them.
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2007-01-24 , 17:34
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
The trouble with Java is that it's utterly cr@p for building desktop apps, it's getting it's arse spanked by C# every day of the week - nobody is interested in developing Swing apps anymore. Mono would be a better bet on a mobile device, Java as far as I'm concerned (and I'm a Java tech lead in a major investment bank) is rapidly becoming useful for server platform development only, by and large. Practically every Java GUI app I've used (apart from Eclipse) has performed appallingly on the desktop, I just don't see it performing well on the Nokia devices.
I have to disagree here massively. Aside from systems like JBuilder (A SWING App btw, not an SWT one) I have seen (and participated in developement of) a number of Swing-based applications for the market. The last one finished only a few weeks ago, next is comming up. And GUI performance was never one of the problems.

Don't get me wrong I would prefer Nokia switching to CE 5.0 and give me VB.NET or "MS JavaClone 2" aka C#. But JAVA IS on the desktop and it works just fine there IF the developers know there stuf
 
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2007-01-24 , 19:13
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As I see it, Java is needed, not necessarily for applications (although there are a couple of nice ones out there for mobile devices), but there are some applets around that are absolutely critical. My netbank, for example, uses a java applet in one of the authentication stages, and likewise there are java applets for authentication to some other sites I use.
In short, I really really need that JVM support in the browser.. I don't care particularly for non-applet java applications though. Well ok, one of the products of the company I work for is java-based and it just so happens that mobile devices with network capabilities and a good screen would be a perfect target for what it does.
 
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2007-01-24 , 20:32
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Maybe stop using cr@ppy banks and shops that insist of using Java in a browser when it's completely unecessary?

I'd switch banks if my online bank used a Java applet!
 
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2007-01-24 , 21:35
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Maybe stop using cr@ppy banks and shops that insist of using Java in a browser when it's completely unecessary?

I'd switch banks if my online bank used a Java applet!
Strangely enough, whether it uses Java or not does not figure very high in my list of qualifications for a bank.
 
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2007-01-24 , 22:08
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Using JBuilder as an example of anything (except a big pile of excrement) isn't particularly good though! (Especially since DevCo have announced that Borland will be moving JBuilder to Eclipse - i.e. SWT - this year)

Having Swing/SWT on Maemo would still be great, though - how can anyone possibly argue that having too many development options would be a bad thing?
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2007-01-24 , 22:18
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minkia !!!
 
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2007-01-24 , 23:17
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
Strangely enough, whether it uses Java or not does not figure very high in my list of qualifications for a bank.
Yeah, at this point I'm ready to make my criteria: does the bank's web interface allow me to use my N800 to access my account? Unlike my current bank (grrrr Wells fargo...).
 
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