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Originally Posted by johnel View Post
@Ozzolupin:

I hate to say it but a google phone or something from Sony-Ericcson might be better?

The n900 is a great device but a very basic phone. Is it too late to return it?
NEVAR!!!!

Get either an iPhone or a Nexus One. Those two have pretty top notch support
 

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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
... the N900 is an incredibly bad phone and probably an incredibly good portable computer...

I don't own an N900, but...
Well, I do own an N900, and I find it's quite a nice phone with skype fully integrated, but of course its capabilities as a portable computer are what's really exciting about it.
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Originally Posted by pantera1989 View Post
But after that, it was very clear that the N900 was intended as a developers and hackers pet.

And it was very clear that Maemo was a young OS and needed some work, so lack of apps and buggy software was to be expected.
I disagree, I researched and didn't find evidence of it being for hackers and developers. It was the good old 'Bull' from Nokia saying it was great, granted mainly online adds.

To me Nokia should feel ashamed. If Toshiba (worlds biggest car maker, like Nokia is worlds biggest phone maker) released a car with lots of faults they would have a PR and Marketing campaign, get them back, get the good will of customers on side and get the car up and running. Then again their quality assurance people wouldn't release it in such a state.

You don't ship a car with buttons that do nowt, you connect them up, you do stuff. You don't have seatbelts with no seat, or airbags that don't work. You connect all hardware to something that has a use or purpose and make sure each component works. You don't fit a seat hoping later on a well meaning owner will get round to fitting the seat belt.

Maybe you do in Finland, maybe half assed jobs are the norm???

I think we should be able to get a refund.

And sorry this is Maemo 5, were Maemo 4 as bad? If win2000 came out not being able to run the printer it as shipped with, or the monitor that came in the box with it, you would complain. You wouldn't hang around and wait for windows to supply the drivers, while yhou look at a blank screen because some community hasn't created your monitor drivers yet. If it is in the box it should work. (And the video camera was in the box)

Don't blame the OS for not being mature enough. It is purely Nokia and the QA people for allowing it through.
 
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Originally Posted by nosa101 View Post
NEVAR!!!!

Get either an iPhone or a Nexus One. Those two have pretty top notch support
Oh no! You said iPhone - blech Xo

I was hoping nobody would notice.

(*sigh*) ok maybe consider iPhone too (good Exchange support).
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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
I disagree, I researched and didn't find evidence of it being for hackers and developers. It was the good old 'Bull' from Nokia saying it was great, granted mainly online adds.

To me Nokia should feel ashamed. If Toshiba (worlds biggest car maker, like Nokia is worlds biggest phone maker) released a car with lots of faults they would have a PR and Marketing campaign, get them back, get the good will of customers on side and get the car up and running. Then again their quality assurance people wouldn't release it in such a state.

You don't ship a car with buttons that do nowt, you connect them up, you do stuff. You don't have seatbelts with no seat, or airbags that don't work. You connect all hardware to something that has a use or purpose and make sure each component works. You don't fit a seat hoping later on a well meaning owner will get round to fitting the seat belt.

Maybe you do in Finland, maybe half assed jobs are the norm???

I think we should be able to get a refund.

And sorry this is Maemo 5, were Maemo 4 as bad? If win2000 came out not being able to run the printer it as shipped with, or the monitor that came in the box with it, you would complain. You wouldn't hang around and wait for windows to supply the drivers, while yhou look at a blank screen because some community hasn't created your monitor drivers yet. If it is in the box it should work. (And the video camera was in the box)

Don't blame the OS for not being mature enough. It is purely Nokia and the QA people for allowing it through.
I'm sorry, but I find your rant completely baseless. The N900 works out of the box. That you can do so much more with it because it is not locked and jailed down is a bonus that you can happily ignor.
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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
To me Nokia should feel ashamed. If Toshiba (worlds biggest car maker, like Nokia is worlds biggest phone maker)
You mean Toyota?

Oh and you could always return the phone or sell it if you hate it
 
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Hah.. I still have an Atari 1040STe with a color Atari SCM1224 monitor. Nice nostalgia there

Somehow appropriate to bring it up here and remember people clinging onto it as if it could never die even while the ship was sinking. In that respect, support WAS important to help keep a platform relevant.
Oh wow. This one... quote worthy.
 

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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
If Toshiba (worlds biggest car maker, like Nokia is worlds biggest phone maker) released a car..
I think you meant Toyota . And cars are different..Have you ever went to a mechanic with a car problem and he asked: "Have you tried turning it on and off again?"

And I do not have all these faults you mentioned. I was very happy with the device and when I bought it I knew that it wasn't perfect and that there was a lack of apps. I don't know where you researched but I didn't get the idea that it is perfect. I knew Symbian or Android would be better. The N900 is good to experiment with.

Here are some reviews you should have seen:

http://www.themaemo.com/and-now-for-...iller-feature/

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2356690,00.asp

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@Ozzolupin:

About your app manager issues, this is quite offtopic here. I would like to help you to get it fixed, seems like somehow you got our repositories broken or some package conflicts.

Could you open another thread for the issues and link it here? Explain the issues there (and not any "politics") and I (and others) will help you. That kind of support here is really one big plus for the N900, though Nokia did not much for it (other than providing the servers)
 

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Originally Posted by Primal View Post
So the N900 has a small user base, this contradicts other posts that tell us that the N900 has shifted more units than expected,
no contradiction at all. what are you talking about?
 

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