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2010-09-19
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I'm afraid that MeeGo UX will be too multitouch-oriented to be useful with resistive screen of N900. That's why we will not get the full official MeeGo for it. Other hardware is not a big problem, because Nokia usually releases a line of devices, so the new OS must be scalable enough to take the place of Symbian.
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.
Eh? Bollocks. With oBS this isn't an issue.
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.
I do stand corrected. However not having those aforesaid applications on the ARM reference device is still rather lacking thought and/or logic.
If it's the reference, then the apps should also be there.
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...
What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.
Harmattan, originally slated to become Maemo 6, is now considered to be a MeeGo instance (though not a MeeGo product), and Nokia is giving up the Maemo branding for Harmattan and beyond (Maemo 5, aka Fremantle, and previous versions will still be referred to as Maemo).
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.
Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.
With that said, I know that the Meego.com images will never have commercial applications. I was around during all of the Hacker Editions. No Flash, no... nothing. And they totally sucked.
And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Agreed, they should have named it something ele.
The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.
And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?
This applies for any kind of MeeGo.com-based products. When Nokia has a MeeGo.com-based product, you can talk to them about dumping in differentiation.
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Sure, but as I was saying, dual packaging for these does not exist, to my knowledge.
You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...
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And don't get me started on the 'instance' stuff..
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2010-09-19
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I fully agree that a better (more clearly ?) specified upgrade path would have benefited everyone. As for silly naming, I have blogged about that time and again, and I sadly don't see that one resolved any time soon (on the contrary, see qgil's insistance that MeeGo-Harmattan is just provisional naming). But even if we look beyond (provisionally named) MeeGo-Harmattan, one of the biggest confusors is leveraging MeeGo as a brand when in fact, that's just the basis of the end product being offered to users. It feels a bit like Ubuntu users being confused by new official Debian releases (make no mistake, Debian may be barebones in certain aspects, but it's no hobbyist OS - at least, though, Ubuntu and Debian are named differently).
The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.
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A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?
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2010-09-19
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all the applications n games will remain same or there will be sme new games ...................any idea
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