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Why would you want a 12Mpx camera on a non-DSLR?
The filesizes will be considerably bigger (eats more storage, takes longer to send, takes longer to process, etc) with arguably no appreciable increase of quality. All cons and no pros.
Wow!! You saying that 12Mpx camera has no advantages?
Let say about this, 6x9 is what a 5MP capable of producing good print, but can you enlarge it to 3x larger without seeing the pixelation?

In this case, 12MP is great for video recording (1080p) capable and better wider capture area. Pixels per square is a lot more but I know that it is not all about the Pixel per square that is count. It does count to ward the quality as well.

Let take a look at 1.3Mp, 2Mp, 3.5MP, 5Mp and 12Mp pictures from all Nokia phones. YOu'll see much improvement in clarity over the Megapixel, now compare 1.3MP to 12MP picture!!

Do you see the difference? Can you spot the quality? After all even it is not DSLR it has to be atleast far more better than the old 5MP camera Unit that Nokia keep on reuse ever since the N95 released. Atleast I can take higher resolution pictures with 12MP and shrink it down to 5Mp and looks superb better than the 5MP
 
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@Dave999: I've used OS4's multitasking for half-a-day on my 3GS (iPhone 4 is 30% faster than 3GS)... some notes:

- On apps that support OS4.0, it works very well.

- I ran GPS logging/tracking in the background for a couple of hours. For all intent and purposes, the GPS tracking app (motion-x) looks and behaves as if it runs fully in the background and didn't skip a beat when switched in/out from. Unfortunately battery drain was still quite noticable

- The UI is optimized to juggle between 4-8 apps. The task switcher shows 4 icons in a (horizontal) row at a time, and you can swipe to see the next 4 in one gesture. It works very fast if you juggle less than 8 apps. More than that, I think it takes a bit longer to hunt and peck.

- Apps that don't support OS4.0 are made to act like they're compatible; they show up in the task-switcher icons listing, yet they're slower to switch in/out from because they don't take advantage of 'fast app switching' feature.
This sucks. I wish they just close and not appear as 'active task'. (I heard there'll be a mod to take care of this, jailbreak needed of course).

- I really like the folders management. It's very quick to create/delete/populate.
iPhone Mulit-tasking = DEFEATED and EPIC FAILURE!

lol N900 still the Muscles King in multi-tasking.
 
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Cue. I'm in the US. I can't walk into any store - they closed the NY Nokia store - and just purchase an N900 even if I wanted to and have it in my hands that very same day.

Different markets, different folks. I'll choose the path where I'm just stating what I can verify, and remain as egocentric in regards to what is "preview", "review" and actual.

I can get an iPhone 4 today. Walked into the local Best Buy and they had a few left. I can't do the same in the T-Mobile stores for the N900. It's all relative to what each of our experiences are... and in this case, it's markedly different.

Now... with that said, I'm still under the impression that an antenna, made of metal with a larger surface area than an embedded one, that's smaller is optimal.

Samsung Galaxy S isn't out globally. If so, please tell me where it's been released. Also, please show me where a true comparison, ppi has been made. If it's out, that should have happened already. If it hasn't, I'm willing to locate one if I can source it, do the comparison myself.

Saying it's the best one out isn't hyperbole, this time. I can compare it to phones - and please notice a pattern here - that I can get my hands on right now, at this very moment. Announcements of forthcoming phones is honestly a waste of my time at this very moment, but I will revisit it when I can make that comparison faithfully with my hands on it.

I'm not much for previews. The hype around the iPhone, or any gadget, would have been misleading in so many different ways. From the fake as hell "better than retina can discern" display - sorry, that's marketing BS from Apple, retinas can go above 440+ppi or so, matters on the distance, scientist and opinion, and the iPhone 4 display isn't there yet - and Samsung has somehow not reported their ppi yet... which is odd. It'll all boil down to which you like, dislike, believe, and get your hands on.

I'm aiming for getting my hands on it. Not a preview. Not even a review. I do a better job of convincing myself than marketing BS. Nokia included.

I can't (and won't) defend Engadget's take on the iPhone 4; even if they paid me. It's just all relative to what they were comparing, and in my case, I'd rather be practical. Can I touch it, can I see it, can I use it right now? Then I'll compare it.

It's in preview, there are no specific numbers, it might or might not come out soon... I truly won't care about it until it comes true.

Thanks for the information on the antennas though. I can honestly say that I just learned from you. Thank you.
 

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Of course there is a noticable difference between a 1.3MP picture and a 12MP picture. The problem is that if the sensor capturing these images are the same size, then there is more noise introduced. That's why the high end digital cameras have larger CCD's to go along with the high pixel counts.
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@maxximuscool: you win, i've made a bad decision.

edit:
hint: the "DSLR" part is important.
spoiler: what sondjata said.

note: "megapixel is king" = bad logic. there's more to a photograph's image definition than the number of pixels.
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Guys, I have a theory I'd like someone with an updated 3GS or 4 to test.

So, Steve said that if you need a task manager, they blew it. Obviously then, the system is meant to work without any user intervention. But seeing that every app shoves itself into the memory, without so much as indicating it to the user, I figure there must be some limit to how many apps "stay open" (well, paused in Fast Switching mode or something). In theory, eventually things should start closing on you.

So suppose I open Skype and expect it to remain connected and accepting calls. Then I open a bunch of other stuff. Will there come a time when Skype closes to free up memory? Will the user get any indication of this, or will he continue to think he's connected? The current system gives no indication whether an app is actually doing something or just listed there in the (not) task manager.

Could someone please test this somehow? Even if this isn't practically limiting (meaning that the limit for apps is very very large), I still find the system horribly lacking in feedback and control.

Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by thearcane View Post
But seeing that every app shoves itself into the memory, without so much as indicating it to the user, I figure there must be some limit to how many apps "stay open" (well, paused in Fast Switching mode or something). In theory, eventually things should start closing on you.
I'm up to 28 apps at the moment, but since not all of the apps are true state friendly with iOS 4, I can't test that until they all are.

But at least 8 or so of them are multi-task friendly: Evernote, Twitter, Bing, Mail, Safari, Phone, Pandora, Messages, Clock, Calendar, Maps, Photos, Settings... and I'm not noticing any slow down, nor anything being removed.

I'll see how many more I can shove in there, but I fear that since most are not iOS 4 optimized, I might be wasting our time until I get more apps that are optimized to hold a state. Those that are not, they will not fast switch, they basically restart (lord, I like but absolutely dislike this so-called multi-tasking model, it soooo sucks) and I'm not sure if it's impacting memory or not.

To me, and I'm being wholly unscientific here, just seems to follow the more serial-tasking part of the OS.

I'll update in a bit.
 
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I've also read that iOS4 enables the swapdisk/file that was never on before this. So, that might raise the roof a little bit (256MB RAM + ?? swap).
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iPhone 4 has 512mb of RAM. iPhone 3GS, 256mb.
 
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@maxximuscool: you win, i've made a bad decision.

edit:
hint: the "DSLR" part is important.
spoiler: what sondjata said.

note: "megapixel is king" = bad logic. there's more to a photograph's image definition than the number of pixels.

DSLR is imporatant, bigger CCD is better at capturing lights which create better picture but in this case all Digital Cameras now a day don't use DSLR anymore. Because it's heavy and chucky, this is where the sensor come into place.

Lower mega pixel counts does have a disadvantage in quality wise. But 12Mpx sensor will still produce the same amount of noise as 5Mp. The catch is it is wider and can be compress down to 5Mpx resolution with less noise which meant better printing image.

Also algorithm is different as well in converting light to image on the sensor. I've compared the 12Mp Satio with my N900 5Mp and I got to say N900 lost hands down with the same picture print on the same size.

Plus when you zoom, N900 pictures wasn't good but 12Mpx Satio still looks alright.
 
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