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Originally Posted by Un27Pee View Post
If one nokian could step in and say something to put all the assumptions and speculations to rest but alas all thier input has worsen the case.
without announcing anything they only have to tell us the leaks are not true and thats all the community is waiting for
But the leaks are true, or at least mostly true -- they don't reveal the whole truth, but what they do reveal is mostly if not entirely correct. So the Nokians can't tell us it's not true. (Well, they could, but they'd lose major credibility when the device was released and we all see that they lied.) On the other hand, they can't tell us the whole truth, or even openly acknowledge that it is mainly true. What are they left with? only telling us that it's not the whole truth, or reminding us of specific known facts not included.
 

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I surely did not by any Nokia device because of Maemo, I bought it in spite of maemo.
That's what bugs me about supposedly having to join maemo.org.

I'm a Linux fan, and I bought my N800 because it was Linux and because it could do a lot of cool things. I had never heard of Maemo.

To me, Maemo is a cool organization perhaps, though it tends to arrogance, as does Nokia. There are lots of good organizations in the world, but I don't join all of them.

And I'm not interested in joining Maemo. Or in voting. I'm also not interested in joining the Young Republicans. I'm not young and I'm not a Republican. The idea of joining either just doesn't appeal to me.
 

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And I'm not interested in joining Maemo. Or in voting. I'm also not interested in joining the Young Republicans. I'm not young and I'm not a Republican. The idea of joining either just doesn't appeal to me.
I'll vote next time cause we're stuck here, assuming another tablet-sized device comes along, or is at least announced, in the next few months. I didn't like the merger in the first place, and, if a new tablet does not come along, I'll firmly believe the con was in.
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Problems with Maemo's committee, problems with this release... I'm searching for some good news.
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
I surely did not by any Nokia device because of Maemo, I bought it in spite of maemo.
Don't take this the wrong way, because I certainly don't mean it in an alienating "go somewhere else" way ... but I get the feeling you'd be a perfect consumer for the Moses SmartQ5 and SmartQ7. Plain tablet, runs linux (could probably be made to run KDE). The Q5 is a 5" tablet, and the Q7 is a 7" tablet.

And, to a certain extent, all of the N800 enthusiasts, who care more about "a pocket Linux machine" more than Maemo itself, should at least look at the Q5 ... with the right Linux flavor on it, it might make a good landing place if Nokia really does drop the 4"+ pocketable tablet form factor.

(and, specifically say N800 because it doesn't have a keyboard ... so probably not as happy for the N810 enthusiasts)
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Has anybody seen Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo's live interview with Mossberg today?

Walt: Who are your main rivals? “Three years ago,” says Kallasvuo, “I would not have hesitated to say Motorola.”
Obviously, he won’t be saying Motorola (MOT) today. Kallasvuo rattles off a list that includes Google (GOOG), Microsoft (MSFT), Apple (AAPL) and Samsung. “You can compete with some of them some of the time, but not all of the time. So you must partner,” says Kallasvuo, adding that Nokia (NOK) works with Microsoft on email.

“The cellphone industry is becoming a consumercentric solutions business,” says Kallasvuo. “We are roadmapping now on the basis of solutions and not devices….We are going through a major transformation here and all our operations are being aligned with this change.” A lot of learning must be done there, but there’s also lots of opportunity.

Talking now about the Symbian OS. Why did Nokia open-source it? Kallasvuo: “We bought it to give it away. And it made Symbian better and faster.” Symbian, says Kallasvuo, is the only mobile OS today that is both open and mature. That’s an advantage when you’re competing against the likes of Apple and Google. If that’s true, asks Walt, why do you have these other operating systems? Kallasvuo admits that Nokia has three mobile OS’s, but says this is necessary to address different sections of the market.”
One line about "MIMO", LoL

Oh and the price of the phone that is not a Maemo device... $699

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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Don't take this the wrong way, because I certainly don't mean it in an alienating "go somewhere else" way ... but I get the feeling you'd be a perfect consumer for the Moses SmartQ5 and SmartQ7. Plain tablet, runs linux (could probably be made to run KDE). The Q5 is a 5" tablet, and the Q7 is a 7" tablet.

And, to a certain extent, all of the N800 enthusiasts, who care more about "a pocket Linux machine" more than Maemo itself, should at least look at the Q5 ... with the right Linux flavor on it, it might make a good landing place if Nokia really does drop the 4"+ pocketable tablet form factor.

(and, specifically say N800 because it doesn't have a keyboard ... so probably not as happy for the N810 enthusiasts)
The problem is that nokia is not confirming or denying a tablet in the future. I think the community has been led to believe that this whole thing is about tablets and now nokia does a U turn. They definitely need to do some explaining.
 

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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Has anybody seen Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo's live interview with Mossberg today?



One line about "MIMO", LoL

Oh and the proice of the phone that is not a Maemo device... $699
I think this needs a different thread.

I did not get to understand what was the answer to the maemo question. does anyone have a link to the video?
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
The problem is that nokia is not confirming or denying a tablet in the future. I think the community has been led to believe that this whole thing is about tablets and now nokia does a U turn. They definitely need to do some explaining.
I don't see why that's a problem, wrt to my suggestion. Look at the device. See if it meets your needs/desires, and at a good price point. If it does, then it doesn't matter what Nokia does or doesn't do with the tablet line up: you've got an affordable device that does what you want, no matter what Nokia does or doesn't do.

You don't owe Nokia any false loyalty, any more than they owe you some aspect of loyalty. Go where the product you want/need/can-afford is. Vote with your feet, post over in the competitors forum (or in this one) that you did (if you did), and then enjoy your new gadget. If Nokia notices that they're losing enough customers over their direction (or over their lethargy, or over their ...), then they'll realize that they need to change how they do business.

If they don't notice, or if they notice that they're losing such a small business segment that it isn't going to change how they do business, then you're not throwing money at a company that doesn't give you the devices you want, on a schedule you want, and with a level of care that you want.
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
I don't see why that's a problem, wrt to my suggestion. Look at the device. See if it meets your needs/desires, and at a good price point. If it does, then it doesn't matter what Nokia does or doesn't do with the tablet line up: you've got an affordable device that does what you want, no matter what Nokia does or doesn't do.

You don't owe Nokia any false loyalty, any more than they owe you some aspect of loyalty. Go where the product you want/need/can-afford is. Vote with your feet, post over in the competitors forum (or in this one) that you did (if you did), and then enjoy your new gadget. If Nokia notices that they're losing enough customers over their direction (or over their lethargy, or over their ...), then they'll realize that they need to change how they do business.

If they don't notice, or if they notice that they're losing such a small business segment that it isn't going to change how they do business, then you're not throwing money at a company that doesn't give you the devices you want, on a schedule you want, and with a level of care that you want.
Well its like being ditched by your girlfriend. You know u have to move on, but initially u are in a state of denial & hope. I had no idea that we would be discussing about nokia and nokia will stop producing tablets. It takes sometime for it to sink in.
 
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