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#61
Hei guys,

@Beni : Ad2p is available indeed (actually is not Canola or any Softwares job, mplayer takes account of that) as we officially supports Mplayer, so we do for the ad2p. The only thing is that you will need to play music also using mplayer (like in the other softwares that :"support" a2dp

the AVRCP seems to be missing in the bluetooth stack of the platform, so seems that in this one we will not be able to help (now, but we do have guys working hard on bluetooth), BUT if there's a possibility to support AVRCP we will try to do it as fast as possible (as it is really nice and useful for those with stereo bluetooth headsets)

@Chrno : The "dreadful" question. If you read about this in the previous Canola you probably saw a lot of "managers" don't want we to do it right?

So Canola is not going to be FS. BUT if you take a look in what we did, you will realize that most of canola is more than open source, and better is giving back everything to community, not recreating stuff, or trying to create communities around things.

1) EVAS 16 bits / EFL / ETK + python bindings for all of this : completely open, commited straight to the E project source.

2) Scanner : it was canola only and gave some people some headaches : also completely open, and actually the other media players will be able to use it and improve it.

3) Canola is almost totally written in python =)

4) the closed part will have fully documented API to support FULL support of independent plugins.

As I said, there's choice, so if OS is crucial for someone, we are sorry to not be able to fulfill it, but we do have commercial plans (not related to canola but to it's new framework) and if we release it we are not able to make money that actually keeps canola project, and canola alive. But we are not only opening what we can, but also try to maintain the other projects as open as possible (like Carman - lgpl, Python, Mamona and so on )

I know it sucks, but the reaction to this already happened : people created open source alternative to it, and now people have freedom of choice.

The only thing we can guarantee is : we are 100% ethical with Canola, so no malicious software / logger or anything exists or will. About not being able to supply people's need is also going to be over : not only we will maintain Canola alive, but also user requested will be developed as plugin based on request number, and the best :

If you have something you want to use, you can actually do the plugin to use it easily. We are not going to "limit " the 3rd party plugins.

@borghal : MorpheusZ is the best guy to answer : but again : Ogg support is actually external to Canola in most of the senses, but we do have changes this time that you don't need to rename them to play like in the old Canola. So if you have ogg support installed, you can play ogg on canola.

@Kozzi : Take a look at the video =) the first one, the final part. Sorry it was in portuguese but here goes how it works :

While in the Album art view , if you don't have an album art, just drag the album art to the right, and we will dowload suggestion for you ( for those cases that the same music / album has multiple versions / singles etc ) and you can actually choose the correct one.

I personally don't like the "mass album art download" that the other players uses because :

1. it's quite heavy
2. brings a lot of wrong thing (sometimes even porn)
3. doesnt allow you to change if it's wrong.

So you can download, change etc easily.

To watch this : http://blip.tv/file/494477 1:54 approximately.

*actually this changed a little bit (and it's on the album view not on the player) the player will show the music listing on the player.

Hope this answers =)

Marcelo
 

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#62
Hey,
thanks for thinking about the backup/media setup for Canola... Would it be possible to allow configuration of canola to be also done on a PC/remotely where you could then upload/import it to your tablet taking the emphases off of data entry within the tablet initially - currently its done through a web page, you could potentially connect the browser on the PC to the tablet and make all changes easily?

The copy and paste method of setting up internet radio stations and podcasts works pretty well for me (even on a 770) it just sucks to have to reenter it after reflashing your device - would be nice to have a DB already configured upon installing Canola initially...

P.s. the new keyboard looks great, it will be interesting to see all of these changes within canola. Big time looking forward to the beta release!
 
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#63
handfil, thanks for your reply, this is great news indeed.
 
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more ghan anything i really like your enthusiasm!!
 
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Ogg support sounds great, this might replace my cowon d2.
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hi guys : the buddies in the team did a video of the 770 running the new vesion.

I personally think it's better than we actually expected, but you can see where small "cpu hogs" happens (photo mainly)

But in other sense you can see how smoothly the animation becomes when the tearing is gone. This is actually good news for us, because it shows that a slower cpu does the trick, and in the newer devices is not cpu usage that makes the "flickering"

http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/d...d-from-etrunko
 
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#67
A copy/paste of my comment on Etrunko's original blog post :

"Looks fantastic ! This Evas+Edje+Python combination seems incredibly efficient... Now I know what my retired 770 is going to be used for ! :-)"

Also, Eduardo just promised Canola2 as a Christmas present :-)
 
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Yeah, I will not lie, the team is really tired, but we do keep our word (actually last year we were delayed 11 minutes) this year we will not be delayed.

Ah forgot to say that : you can actually see that the screen sensitivy is really problematica.. so I asked the guys to add some more hardware control (basic scrolling / music controls) that if they make it to the release it will really help the use on 770.

Well, another good news now approved by the "man"= )

We are going really to have public roadmap for at least 2 versions ahead. So in Launch date, you guys will already now the improvements on january and february version. Of course january we will not go too big on features because there will be bug fixes and we will focus on those, but february is going to be a nice addition of features that we really want but the deadline unfortunately will let it out.

BR!
 
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I just turned on to this Canola thing and I'm really excited to see where Canola2 is, and that it's being released in just a little more than a week. Very exciting stuff. I'm most excited about the podcast support. Anyone know if Canola2 will support auto-downloads? What about video-podcasts?
 
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Hi Weatherman!
The podcast we are tailoring to be a complete podcast app. So please forgive if some crucial thing is missing in the first release, but we will be fast in providing fixes for this. Podcast is a crucial feature and we will improve this as much a needed.

For now, I don't think we will place the auto download options, because you can be connected to GPRS which can generate costs, but we will try to give you a configuration setting to allow you to set up that in a really near future.

Video podcast are going to be in a very brief future release. But anyone can actually do one so fast with python, that I believe someone is going to do it faster than us =)

I know it's sad not having this things now, but that's really now the reality of being a beta, and once we have the basics quite solide (and for that we need user feedback) then we are going to make more solid podcast, and new features will also appear.

As I said, we will have an open roadmap, so please let us know what you guys want, bugs you find, because this will drive the roadmap.

BR
 

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