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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Not anymore. Nokia made the ads go away.
And you don't think that if Nokia continues to lose money hand over fist they'd not introduce advertising to yet another loss leader?

Seriously. An ad isn't the end of the world.
 

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Forum Nokia is a sister site of maemo.org that makes up the third part of the Maemo spectrum. Users go to maemo.nokia.com, community types go to maemo.org, and developers (primarily commercial) go to Maemo @ Forum Nokia. This isn't advertising (what, exactly, are they selling?).
It's called branding. Any halfwit can understand that mindshare is the goal because that leads to familiarity and thus, purchases.

The very same as advertising. Now, when will advertising get dropped from the internettabletalk.com front page? Where were these arguments over advertising on ITT?

You lot seem to have enough faith in Nokia to support them continuously into Harmattan, then have faith it'll be done correctly.
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Forum Nokia is a sister site of maemo.org that makes up the third part of the Maemo spectrum. Users go to maemo.nokia.com, community types go to maemo.org, and developers (primarily commercial) go to Maemo @ Forum Nokia. This isn't advertising (what, exactly, are they selling?).
Relax fella. There is no "tongue in cheek" smiley icon... and if there was, qole might think I was trying to get perverted or suttin'...

...besides, categorizing readers for what ever reason usually ends up biting the author, editor, or publisher in the buttocks.


I suppose for good or ill, in the end... everything is advertising.
 
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Relax fella. There is no "tongue in cheek" smiley icon... and if there was, qole might think I was trying to get perverted or suttin'...
Any of: , or would've been appropriate, "fella".

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...besides, categorizing readers for what ever reason usually ends up biting the author, editor, or publisher in the buttocks.
Er? Who's categorizing anybody? Developer-centric content will be on one site, user-centric content will be on another, and community-centric stuff will be on maemo.org. The content is categorized, not the users.
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Now, when will advertising get dropped from the internettabletalk.com front page?
Internet Tablet Talk has been dropped, it's now Talk. The "front page" you're looking for is talk.maemo.org.
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
It's called branding. Any halfwit can understand that mindshare is the goal because that leads to familiarity... <big ol' snip>...
I'm a half wit and I resemble that remark dude!

If by "mindshare" (qu'est-ce que freakin' se?) you mean what all the rest of us halfwits think about Nokia in the future?

That is already beginning to change in North America... every time someone sees a tablet.

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I would think changing the mind set of future customers would be easier when current customers haven't fully identified with what you currently do.

That is I believe, what the "Fightin' Fish of Finland" intended to accomplish in the first place.

I believe history has shown us that in the future, the kids of an NIT user won't think Nokia only makes phones.

Years ago Harley-Davidson had a print ad that just showed what appeared to be at fist glance as a stock photo of a baby in crib. Under the picture the only words where "When did it start for you?"

On closer inspection I noticed that the baby's crib sheets had little H-D logos all over them.

Later on I realized that WalMart pro'ly sold millions of sets of those exact same crib sheets....


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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Any of: , or would've been appropriate, "fella".



Er? Who's categorizing anybody? Developer-centric content will be on one site, user-centric content will be on another, and community-centric stuff will be on maemo.org. The content is categorized, not the users.
Whatever dude...

The topic isn't what works for you, remember?
 

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Internet Tablet Talk has been dropped, it's now Talk. The "front page" you're looking for is talk.maemo.org.
Looks rather active to me. In fact, I go there first because it's easier to parse.

And you bypassed my real question... where were the advertisement hatred then? Hmmm?
 
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
I'm a half wit and I resemble that remark dude!
HAHAH! I wouldn't have said it unless it applied to me too!

If by "mindshare" (qu'est-ce que freakin' se?) you mean what all the rest of us halfwits think about Nokia in the future?

That is already beginning to change in North America... every time someone sees a tablet.
I'll kindly have to disagree with you here. I think that the tablets and Nokia's branding in the US is starting to slip even more. Mind you, while in China or Europe, Nokia is the brand. In America... it's being relegated to a footnote simply because the world got the N-Series while we didn't. And this is before the advent of buying unlocked was popular - which, now you'd have to be a truly savvy consumer to do so.

And to me, that means the people lesser than us halfwits need not attempt to buy unlocked. It requires computers and knowing stuff!

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I had a dang 2 hour composition that I just lost (using a spastic key combination that I couldn't reproduce if ya paid me real money) in total agreement with what you just said.

I was impressed with how fast iPhone sold 1 million units then 10 million units. The frequency was measured in month's...

Then I recently saw a video about Nokia stress tests. (link added later)

It it, they said Nokia produced 1 million units a day!

I'm thinkin'...
All Nokia has to do is be the next best thing in North America once to dominate a future world market for hand held devices. If what the halfwits in America are all using says Nokia on it, "it" would matriculate to other Nokia users world wide rather quickly.

Motorola learned that any other company would need to be the next best thing over and over again in North America in order to capitalize on a future world market.

I'm also thinkin' that the next battle in North America is between Palm and Apple and there will be blood... The aftermath could also take down at least one service provider.

Nokia is wise to take it slow. I still have hope that if Nokia does get into bed with a service provider, it would be with a totally new one in North America. One that doesn't have to use past business models in order to compete with the status quo.

Who knows? leaks are often calculated.

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