Now, folks, let us take a

DEEEEEEEEEEEP

Breath

and turn page..... Please.

Thank you

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Thank you for your assistance in this. As this community grows, it's becoming more difficult for any one of us to follow every thread.

whatever. seriously. I'm glad for the help texrat. its all good, and I'm just not taking sh.. from another person period. I played nice guy for a couple days, but it does no good. We're allowed to have opinions, as Tim said, so I'll keep to mine, attitude and all.

I'm a respect me and I respect you type. This is for the birds. I'll check who I need to, and speak to others as they speak to me. Its easy to see when looking through a window. I see right through most of the cats.

If you don't like my attitude, don't mess with me. That simple.

Dude, no way.

Did you know that ur post would be the last one on the page, and that we would literally have to listen?

F**ckin' deep, bro.

Good point Jay.

I didn't know but later found out: I felt a little embarrassed...

In a way, this stumble was in the style of a Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy film.

I had a good laugh.

I'm new on this forum, although I have been reading it for a long time, and here is what I think.

I consider this an open source community forum of the old school type. When I was an overenthusiastic teenager I learned the hard way how these work. I learned that you should, as a newbie, never argue with the elite, no matter how friendly they claim the the forum is.

The worst crime a newbie can commit is demand something, and asking for something twice counts as demanding.
If you get caught demanding something, apologize and hope that someone else takes up your problem, because if you mention it again, you will have a hard time.

There are a ton of these rules, but demanding and nagging are the worst offenses afaik. There is a list somewhere but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.
Now these "rules" aren't written as official, but that does not mean they are not there.

That said, I still feel this is one of the friendlier communities I've been a part of, and I hope it stays that way. Even under the strain of quick expansion and a flood of newbies (like myself).

Luckily, people like JayOnThaBeat bring some much needed humor

I LOL'd.

Welcome, Mece, to the forum!

Jay is a piker. I've seen his stand-up act. People paid him to stop.

Post it.

In an attempt to pull the thread back to the original topic, especially since I don't know whether I should want to contribute to the null-Jay movement, let me offer a few items to consider.

First, does this forum want to be the forum that both developers and new users go to first? It would seem to be that with the closure of InternetTabletTalk that was the intention. If it is still the intention I would suggest a few changes in the layout.

From a new user perspective, the main page could be improved. Especially when accessing it on an IT, a n00b may never see anything but the three Talk forums. Having a:
Category1: Forum1, Forum2, ...
Category 2: ...
header showing all the categories and forums in a few lines might direct some questions to a more appropriate forum. I would also eliminate the last post line to condense the overall listing.

The explanations of the various forums could be enhanced for a new user. For example, the explanation for Maemo 5 could mention that it is only the current OS for the N900 and that it won't run on the N810 or N800. Going back in time, the explanation for Maemo 3 could mention that it was the OS originally installed on the N800 but that it could/should be upgraded to Maemo 4.

The use of stickies could be improved. Every forum would benefit from the type of explanation offered in the N810 forum ( http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28382 ). Also, general explanations of the area covered by a forum could be added. For example, the two threads in Tablet 101 could be moved to closed sticky threads in the N810 forum.

As far as the forums, I would suggest (again) that the Newbie forum be made much more prominent. Many people with dumb questions are smart enough to understand that it's a dumb question and will post in an IT for Dummies sort of forum rather than clog up the other forums.

Lastly, promote the Wiki! If I've read the Intro page before clicking on Talk, I will have read that this is "an open source community developing software". The last place (as a n00b) I'm going to click is Community. As a result, I will never know the Wiki exists. I would suggest making the sidebar "Talk FAQ" into "FAQ" with a drop down to "Talk Forum FAQ" and "Maemo Wiki". I would also suggest that whenever someone has the time they answer questions by creating a Wiki page and linking from Talk to that page.