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@deleet

I really hope LiveProfile will be available on the MeeGo Harmattan based N9 as well. (as you are writing in Qt, it should be not too difficult right?) You will potentially get millions of users by releasing it on all 3 Nokia platforms! (Maemo5, Symbian^3 and MeeGo Harmattan)

Anyways, we are waiting eagerly for your alpha version. =)
I will even review it on my website (see sig) once it's available.

oh. just re-read your original post and you mention MeeGo. Awesome!

I'd be more interested to see LiveProfile as a Conversations plugin.

i desperately want whats app on maemo?? when can we get it???plzzzzzzz

hello Deleet
any updates about liveprofile?
i am eagerly waiting to install in my n900

P.S- if anyone knows about whatsapp is it being developed for n900?

Still working on this. You can see my replies on the other thread, found here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71083

@keflex
That's not our goal. We're much much more than just a messaging platform.

While I understand what you're saying, you're also ultimately wrong; LiveProfile is a messaging platform with a couple of extra features. These features are unnecessary, because they are emulated by existing services (Facebook for status updates, the N900 Contacts app for avatars, extra info). As a result LiveProfile is really just an example of feature creep, and adds unnecessary duplication to the N900 UX. Considering that one would have to convince their friends to migrate to this platform before using it, and considering that the platform has no scope outside that of a mobile messaging tool (compare this to something like Facebook Chat, which can be used in mobile & desktop environments), why should I use LiveProfile? As far as I can tell the only reason I would is for Photo/Video sharing, and they're pretty marginal offerings.

Even though I understand your opinion, I respectfully disagree.

There are (several) alternatives for many of our features but offering them all in a package that's exclusive to mobile clients (this was our choice), much faster and easy to use is still worthwhile.

And then there's all the stuff we haven't announced yet.

Ease of use and speed are subjective qualities, and so that really invalidates any follow-up I could have; I'd say well-played but essentially all it means is you've covered up a strawman argument. Fact is, you haven't detailed one compelling reason for me to adopt your proprietary messaging platform, and the ones that have been supplied I would argue are insubstantial. By amalgamating several messaging services into one app, Conversations offers much greater usability as it allows me to communicate with ALL of my friends, regardless of their messaging preferences. Again, the only real loss is photo/video sharing, and to be honest 99 times out of 100 it makes more sense to share these items in a public setting, e.g. Facebook. Moreover messaging apps on other platforms do not have this issue, such as webOS.

Looking towards the future, you can see the beginnings forming of all major smartphone platforms adopting platform-agnostic messaging platforms that communicate through their one Messaging app, which will serve as an aggregator. In a future such as this, I will once again pose the question:

Why should I use LiveProfile?

@keflex
I really need something like LiveProfile on the N900 and N9. Even if it's not a conversations plugin. 99% of my family/friends do not use Nokia. So right now, there is no easy way for me to message them via online chat other than gtalk, skype etc. But those require an account with a new username created and a constant online status.

Whatsapp, Liveprofile etc does not need an account created as such but just need to confirm the mobile . It goes off your contacts within the phone. It provides push sms notifications on new messages so even if you are offline, you can be told that there is a message.

If you personally don't want/need it, why do you have to tell the dev that what they are doing is useless or unnecessary? You are not making things any better for anyone. I'm just thankful that they are even considering the N900 version.

@deleet
Please let us know when a working version is available to test. I will even test it for you and will also put up an article on my blog. =)

It's a criticism I have of all BBM-replacement platforms, in that it doesn't solve the problem of ubiquitous messaging. I am free to voice my concerns much as you are free to voice your support. If you disagree with that, then I will happily suggest that you remove any and all content from your posts that voices your own disdain for Nokia's lack of Korean language support.