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#61
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Hard to say. But it's easy to find out: rub it against typical surfaces and see if it can attract things like tissue. Just be aware if the case IS static-prone it will likely pick up dust during testing.

I would *hope* they had used a static-resistant material, but then, sometimes that isn't considered...
Tried out, it didn't pick up any dust or anything.
I think they used a static resistant screen, considering that they also made it transreflective.
 
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Originally Posted by Descalzo View Post
I just checked the site and they say it's not compatible with the N900.

But if you use it I'll believe you over them and try it.
GoGadget or Nokia media transfer?

I've attached screencaps of both
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At someone elses urging, I'm trying something new, and hopefully more "productive".

I've created a sister thread to this one, where rather than try to explain here for the 20th times how to compensate for a "missing feature" or an "issue" someone has about the device, one can explain work around and/or solutions others may have missed. I do ask that you read the top post there, and feel free to contribute to the thread, preferably with links to the solutions as I've started to do.

This isn't to discredit the problems people are posting here, but rather to show fixes, alternatives, or possible work-arounds that some may have missed. For example, the "doesn't do MMS" issue can be readily resolved by using fMMS (which is listed on the sister page).

Hopefully the new thread will let more people enjoy their existing N900, while the two together can provide a more balance view of the N900. This lets others looking at the device decide if optional solutions may be "good enough" stand-ins for key features that they need or want.

One constructive bit, this thread has served (and will continue to) as a good source of topics which we can use to help create a constructive list of fixes or work-arounds from. Feel free to take things people here are bitc.. noting and post working solutions on the sister page. (Then maybe note that you did that here, with a link to your post, like I've done?)
 

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Thanks. See my comments below.

Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
I wish these points could be edited to match reality:

Well if you say something which is reality I will amend

There must be something to scratch the screen, right? yes the screen is scratch prone but the scratches doesn't appear nowhere like baby jesus was born...

Whether there is something to scratch it is kinda besides the point. I did not have anything in my pocket other than the N900 and got two massive scratches within two months use. In contrast I had an ipod touch for three months. I hate Apple and was like a hammer on my head owning any of their products so treated it like ****. Dumped keys and anything else imaginable in same pocket and did not get a single scratch. Fact is the N900 screen scratches more easily than those of many of its competitors for comsumers money - iphone, HTC Desire, HTC Legend.

many is the worst word one could possibly have put there...

Will change to some.


isn't this obivous if you have looked more than one picture from the device?

Yes but you may not appreciate what it means for your usage until you have to type a few docs with lots of numbers mixed in. However, someone else has said it is a preference so I think I will delete it. Major issue for me though because most of my use other than as a phone and media player is Conboy which I use for taking notes in Church and when doing Bible study and well when the pastor says Matthew 7:7 it gets annoying having to do alternate for the 7, Upper Case for the : and then alternate again for the other 7.


I get 10+ hours with facebook + gtalk. so imo that should be mentioned: better protocol - double the battery duration

Well I have already said yahoo and msn are culprits and said it is not an issue unique to the N900. But will change to mention that facebook + gtalk give much better results.

these are called defect units. these should be replaced asap. (you can get a brand new if you return the device within xx days at least in Finland)

Really? Thought this was a wide spread issue hence the thread on this site with over a 1000 posts or so and that this was a software issue which was fixed for many in the last firmware update but I still have the problem.

depends fully what you are running and what not. and what do you concider smooth anyway?

Not sure how to describe smoothly and not even sure it is a relative term. It is either smooth or it's not and well it is not as far as I am concerned. But will edit to say depends on what you have

then why in the heavens name you don't use iTunes?!?! it can be used with any device cabable mounting to your PC as an usb stick....

Sorry but I don't know how to. As far as I know Apple blocks anything from synching with itunes that is not an Apple device. The Palm Pres had itunes synch and then Apple intentionally disabled this. If you are saying there is a work around I will edit to say this but will have to mention that it is not straightforward as just simply synching an iphone to itunes.

will be fixed when PR1.2 is released.

Thanks will edit to say this. When the firmware comes out it will of course be deleted altogether.

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Originally Posted by zanzibar2 View Post
As quoted by 9000

I've deleted most of the quote from 9000 due to its length. Sarcasm courtesy of 9000 comes to mind...not a constructive response.

However I would be interested to know how I can assign different ring tones to different contacts? I am a newbie to the N900 (as most of us are) and not familiar how to do this. You been a pro perhaps you can enlighten me? I'm sorry if that sounds offensive to you.

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You can't. Which is why I was surprised to see that in his post. Along with alot of other things in there. Unless I have missed a new third party app.
 
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Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
Please do not attack me pointlessly as so many of you love to do. This is meant to be constructive. Let me know what issues you think I have missed out so the list can be as comprehensive as possible.
That's fine, as long as some points are not your subjective opinion

Please do not say I don't have that issue so it does not exist. Everything I will list other than from what others have contributed will be from my own experience and I am not making anything up.
Why your own perception suppose to be the common opinion? Just let's discus things here. Customer ca read about issues and later personal subjective feelings. Rather other way around.

Maybe eventually this can be changed to a wiki or something. Hopefully this will prevent others buying a device which is not suitable for them.
I disagree do a wiki base on one person subjective opinion only
As I said, let's discus about each point and find the consensus.

Whatever I will write down under your post it's my experience and opinion only!



Hardware


(i)The screen scratches more easily than capacitive screens. I have two very large scratches on my screen despite making sure I put absolutely nothing in the same pocket as the N900. Be sure you use a screen protector because no matter how careful you are the screen may get scratched.
I agree with you but I don't like the screen protector because cause issue you pointed out later.

(ii) There is a serious manufacturing defect with the micro-usb socket of many of the N900s. For some it has fallen out completely. For me the device no longer charges from a charger. It has to be charged from PC via USB cable. Nokia have been made aware of the problem and hopefully have fixed it in the latest builds but there is no guarantee this is so and there is no guarantee that even if they have you will not end up with an older batch so be aware of this risk.
I believe it's true.

(iii) Only three row keyboard layout so you need to use alternate for the numbers keys.
true, but compare to what... screen keyboard or devices that have 4 rows. Is not cool for me only when I have to press 1 because buttons fn and 1 are close to each other and is not handy when you keeping your device on the way. However if designers/developers here doing some pass with numeric field in mind usually number mode is as default.
I didn't expect this same experience as on PC keyboard, I know some devices are better but hardware keyboard is good enough for me and refer to size of the buttons and how they functioning it's just perfect.

Battery

If you do not have IM accounts turned on then the battery should easily last you through the day. However, with some IM accounts (not sure which are the culprits but yahoo and msn seem to be amongst) you should generally expect around 6 hours use on average. Not really an issue specific to the N900 though - Engagdet's review of the HTC Desire says they had 6 hours with similar use.
I am using 4 at the moment. With all additional handy apps helping me keep aye on power consumption. When I am not using my N900 to much, just reciveing emails every 5 minutes, some messages via conversation bluetooth turned off etc etc. 2 days, yes 48h.

Pretty much sleep mode but I keep my emails and conversation running.
If I can add internet browsing quickly check some address, receiving calls, 4-5 per day 10min each, 24h.

Using N900 extensively non stop 6h.
However I was surprised yesterday with leaked 1.2. last time I had appointment, so, get to the tube listening to the music, gps overground to find location, some internet browsing to find some client related websites. My battery with from 80% goes dead after 3h journey, Yes GPS with current OVI map was harm. Yesterday similar journey this time with improved OVi map. from 90% to 80% within 1 hour, pretty much the same activity.

Interface/Operating System

(i) Some devices randomly restart.
Yes I have read about this

(ii) The transition between the four desktops is far from smooth.
Screen protector? or ridiculous amount of widgets and shortcuts on the screen? Or both.
For me no issues. Each screen represent some section for me, Phone/Conversation, Daily use apps, Entertainment, Contact Shortcuts/ Bookmarks. Smooth and pretty. (Stock 600Mhz) I had screen protector for 3 days. I removed it quicker than guys showing it on demo movies . It will completely destroy your enjoyment of the touch screen.

(iii) You cannot jump to the particular desktop you want like you can with HTC's Sense interface. You can scroll forward or backwards so can go from 1 to 2 or 1 to 4. But you cannot go straight from 1 to 3. You must scroll through 2 to get to 3.

(iv) Scrolling through a long list is terribly jerky. For example if you are scrolling through the thumbnails of your photos.
See above. To addition to that, Because I am enjoying smooth screen I am also enjoying the fact I need to go from 1 to 4

(v) If you have a lot of media going to a folder with many sub-folders or files will cause the device to slow down to the point of the file manager being unusable.
no experienced

(vi) The device can sometimes be slow and unresponsive. If you are a Linux expert or are lucky you will never have any slow down or apps freezing up. However, it is generally not as snappy as an iphone for the general user where you tap an icon and it opens up immediately.
I am not linux expert, simple logic saying me don't tap like crazy everywhere. Sometimes it's getting stuck, that's true. Are you clicking like crazy when your home machine will get stuck? I know many ppl do like that.

(vii) The screen does not refresh automatically for some reason. If the screen goes off (battery saver) when you wake it up it will show for a couple of seconds exactly what it was showing before it went to sleep. So if the time was 14.50 then and is now 16.30 it will initially show 14.50. Or if you are listening to music it will show the song details of the song that was playing before the screen went off.
no experienced

(viii) It takes longer than it should to switch from portrait mode to landscape and vice versa.
hmm, guys you really need to tweak transitions a bit or let people remove it.

(ix) There is no full portrait mode on the device so makes one handed operation rather difficult or virtually impossible. There is only portrait mode on phone app, web browser and some third party apps.
true, regarding to the fact N900 was intended to be internet tablet line continuation.

Maps/Navigation

The Ovi Maps version on the N900 is outdated and misses voice turn by turn navigation. Note that most symbian devices have a full navigation software with turn by turn and voice whether walking or by car and this is free on these devices. On the N900 you have to pay for a third party programme.
Yes old Ovi maps is horrible, leaked 1.2 MUCH more better.

Ovi Store

This does not work properly with the N900. I may be wrong but at present it is not even working at all. Also if you are using your PC you cannot easily load apps from Ovi Store to your N900 the way you can with itunes and iphone. If you choose to install an app on your PC all that happens is you get a link sent to your phone by sms and then you have to follow the link which takes you to the Ovi Store.
true, but personally i don't miss Ovi store since I've got all i need in App manager.

Media Player


(i) Videos stutter a lot for the first few seconds of play back.
no experienced

(ii) The N900 has a serious problem with displaying proper tags for music files. For some it works fine for some it doesn't. For me it shows album artist and never song artist and album artist is almost pointless for me as many of my songs are from compilations and so just shows Various Artist rather than e.g. R. Kelly. Third party apps such as Media Box do not have this problem but may have their own issues.

(iii) Some album art do not show even though embedded.

(iv) Tracker which updates media file info is very often defective. You can add media files and they not show up in the media player for a week. You can reset tracker or kill it, etc using terminal but be warned it is very often not like what you are used to where you transfer files via usb and your files show up immediately.

(v) Creating playlists is not as intuitive as it should be. You need to add songs to now playing list then create playlist from the now playing list.
true

(vi) No proper functioning software to sync with your PC the way itunes syncs perfectly with iphone. You can use drag and drop but that is only helpful for the first sync of all your music and when you add new songs to your PC and are sure exactly what the news songs are and can just drag and drop them. There is Ovi Music but it does not work with the N900. Third party PC software programmes can sync but many of them just sync to the main documents folder or the main music folder rather than in an organised manner (via artist, album artist, etc) and so create a huge mess and will kill your use of file manager. You may get something to work properly but will be quite an effort compared to using itunes and iphone.
true, I understand it can be issue for drag and drop lovers.

(vii) Currently no equaliser though I don't see much point in an equaliser but just be aware there is none in the media player.
No worries new PR will make you happy here

(viii) The play button on the media player widget does not work for some.

(ix) No way to stretch to full screen in the default media player (though mplayer a third party app will do so).
No worries new PR will make you happy here

Email

(i) There is no easy way to search your emails.

(ii) Nokia Messaging sometimes has delay in pushing emails to the device. Delay can be 15 minutes, can be a couple of hours. If you have a job where you need to be contacted immediately by email better to use a blackberry.
Settings, interval, everything works for me, I am using 2 accounts And actually I am thinking to slow it down because bubbles became nightmare and annoying thing.

Phone

(i) The phone cannot say the name of the caller.
Can with app

(ii) You cannot have custom ringtones for each caller.
haven't play around

(iii) You cannot have caller groups.
haven't play around

(iv) The call log is pretty poor. It just lists all types of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed) in one long list.
For me it;s cool, one view, icon saying what happened, label beside who.
Would be nice to have additional options to filter this, But as general list I like it. You have full view for history.

(v) For some it randomly goes to speaker mode whilst you are on the phone.
if your ear is faster (touch the screen) than detector, possibly.

(vi) For some the call volume drops on and off.
no experienced

(vii) Only general and silent profiles (although there is an app that seeks to get around that).
true

(viii) No way to set the phone to divert all calls to voicemail. You need to download a third party app to achieve this.
really?

(ix) Cannot dial numbers starting with * or # without the use of a third party widget so without the third party widget you are unable to top up your credit or check your balance in certain countries.
With 1.2 you will

(x) No MMS unless you get a third party app.
true

These phone issues are issues which are not present on symbian so if they are big issues for you consider one of the high end symbian phones as an alternative.

Special Issues

This section contains issues which may not be very wide spread but I have put them down because they are present on my device. Some can suggest other issues they have which no one else seems to have.

(i) If playing video I cannot receive calls.
There is app to improve this. Would be nice to have it native.

(ii) Sometimes the phone rings with a blank screen for a few seconds so no way to answer the phone. I know a few others have had this issue but not sure how wide spread it is.
Happening to me sometimes, but I learned that don't try to press green button and turn portrait mode in this same time.
Make sure your phone is in good position and then press it.
But I agree it could be definitely improved.

I know you asked ppl here do not point out this, I have right to speak what I feel about my phone etc. Every one have I think. And you see how different opinion and experience can be. And I don't think that any body here opinion should be THE ONE. But general view that all of us agree it's wrong. Also intentionally I was talking about 1.2 because will show you Nokia didn't let us die with this state. They keep improving things. And I am glad to see this even on leaked PR. In my opinion it should be one general topic for this, I agree that was good idea and I am going to thank you for this. But should be done by moderator and base on many ppl opinions get the most repeatable/common issues rather than subjective opinions.

Once Again, whatever I said here it's ONLY my PERSONAL opinion same as Author of this thread.
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One request I do have to the OP: Could you please change the language about "3rd party apps", or at least note that when you say that phrase you are talking mainly about free apps? Most people see the phrase "3rd party apps" and are conditioned to think they are apps they would need to pay something to get.

For example, fMMS is a free app that anyone can install from extras-testing (hopefully soon in extras). Calling it a 3rd party app, which technically correct, could make people just looking into the N900 think they have to pay for an app to do MMS.
 

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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
At someone elses urging, I'm trying something new, and hopefully more "productive".
So was this all gerbick's idea or are you just somehow using his name for some sort of benefit...

One constructive bit, this thread has served (and will continue to) as a good source of topics which we can use to help create a constructive list of fixes or work-arounds from. Feel free to take things people here are bitc.. noting and post working solutions on the sister page. (Then maybe note that you did that here, with a link to your post, like I've done?)
I would've considered your post to be positive and constructive if it wasn't betrayed by that part in bold.
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Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
You can't. Which is why I was surprised to see that in his post. Along with alot of other things in there. Unless I have missed a new third party app.
There are a few scripts that get close, and a project that's working on it. It's not quite there yet last I looked, but it's close. I haven't added to the solutions thread yet because it's still too beta to be a real solution yet. But once it is (or if it's progressed more since then), please do update my thread please!
 
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
So was this all gerbick's idea or are you just somehow using his name for some sort of benefit...
No, it's my idea... But I was inspired to re-think how I was handling threads like this based on his input, and felt it was right to give credit where credit was due.

Originally Posted by ysss View Post
I would've considered your post to be positive and constructive if it wasn't betrayed by that part in bold.
Did you read the other thread yet? Did you see the smiley? Just because I'm being constructive doesn't mean I can't make a tongue-in-cheek joke on occasion. Let out your belt a knotch and relax a little. It's not like someone's driving...
 
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