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the question is no which device is better, but what Apple would od about this "bug". The question is who gives better support. As no bugs in Nokia fixed, let's see hower Apple would treat their customers
 
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n900 - USB port falls out (Who says Nokia products are "Better Quality"?)
With N900, it's "SOME USB ports fall out". We can just claim it's a manufacturer error. Wait, we already did.

Yes, it's a bitter thread. But we've had our fun on the device when it worked fine, we can't go back now that it had flaws. It's a moral obligation.
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So does using the bumper make things better?
Yep! Its fine, its on the iphone 4 thread.
 
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No need to get bitter y'all... I covered that in the thread tags for all.

"haters gone hate" = h8'ers gon' h8
"worst thread ever" = worstthreadever

There's actually a lot of good information in this thread and the other iPhone 4 thread about the bad decision(s) and lack of testing via the FCC on the impedance due to no hands on the devices during testing.

Makes for an interesting read sans bitterness. It's a goof. The microUSB, this... I think everybody is just rushing stuff to the market.
 

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I had a feeling that it would reduce reception but not cut it out altogether due to the remaining bits of the exposed attenna.
 
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The microUSB issue makes you think it was rushed why? Not everyone has the MicroUSB issue, it's obviously a manufacture error. Mine is quite sturdy, I've plugged and unplugged the phone at least 300 times since, and it's sturdy enough to hold the phone horizontally by the charger.

It is as sturdy if not more so than the small pin-sized Nokia charger I've had in N80.

It also hits me I'm offtopic. So, like, boo Apple or something.
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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
The microUSB issue makes you think it was rushed why? Not everyone has the MicroUSB issue, it's obviously a manufacture error. Mine is quite sturdy, I've plugged and unplugged the phone at least 300 times since, and it's sturdy enough to hold the phone horizontally by the charger.

It is as sturdy if not more so than the small pin-sized Nokia charger I've had in N80.

It also hits me I'm offtopic. So, like, boo Apple or something.
The fact I have a N810, have plugged in my microUSB quite a few times and never had it pop out, nor has anybody on these boards versus a 1400+ reply thread for the N900 and the woes of getting support from Nokia.

Dunno man. If that's not a possible error due to manufacturing, thus what I categorized as a goof, then what is it considered? It has happened more than once, they had to actually fix the motherboard soldering for it, just like Apple will have to fix this too...

I will have to call it a design problem. Just because it didn't happen to everybody doesn't make it a goof or rushed/improperly tested product. Not all of the Sony batteries exploded, but they sure as hell called all of those back.

And the people that stated as you had that it hadn't had happened to them, it sooner than later did in some cases. I hope it truly does not happen to you though man. That would suck.

For the iPhone 4, I'd probably throw it in a case and be done with that. No touchy the stainless sides and I'm good.
 
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Well, there are design flaws, and there are design flaws.
I imagine something like a loose USB connector can be addressed in future manufacturing runs. Its effect is not pretty at all, but actually it's quite a minor flaw, having to do with component selection.
I don't see an easy solution for Apples situation though... This looks to me like a major conceptual flaw.
 
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Are we sure that these iPhones with this problem aren't prototypes or early production models?

Related to this, where can I find out if the N900 is currently being manufactured in a different way compared to how it was manufactured around release?

I'm just waiting for my phone to go in for repairs for the third time, but am skeptical whether a new device will solve my prob. Im suffering from the low/no volume in earpiece bug.
 
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BGR singing a different tune after more information is gathered:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...-software-bug/

Much fuss has been made about the iPhone 4’s reception woes, but the evidence continues to mount that suggests the problem is purely the result of a bug in the current build of iOS 4. As proof, a YouTube user has posted a video of his iPhone 3G, held in a similar fashion as the iPhone 4s in the YouTube videos we showed you yesterday, losing signal strength as soon as it is clutched. As this did not happen with iOS 3.0, this suggests a software bug which affects the signal meter the user sees. Even more interesting is the fact that despite displaying a weak signal — and in some cases no signal at all — many users report that the iPhone 4 is still able to make calls as if nothing were wrong. Hit the jump to check out the video then give us your thoughts!
I guess the antenna design is SO GOOD AFTERALL that it performs much better than it can internally be measured
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