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I solved the problem with the solution from filebox.
I'll update now.

Updated first page

Time for it to hit extras-devel?

yes, but it still crashes on first rotation after install (for everyone?).
Are you experienced in making debs?

Personally, I'm not - just because I've never did anything worth being put to repos (this may change soon, cause I'm working on some thing). Still, as experience of some prove, using autobuilder to put packages into extras (AFAIK it packs it as .deb on it's own) is a matter of reading it's instruction and following relatively simple steps, i.e. anyone who get her/his a** up and read README can do that. Just keep in mind that I'm quoting popular opinions here, not my own experiences. Although, it seems to me, that most of non-repos things are out just because devs were too lazy to even check how easy/hard using repos is

Of course I'm not attacking anyone, but something tells me that - honestly - non-repos developers didn't even tried to put something there. Anyway, for sure it's much more easy than creating program in first place.

So, instead of being helpful you decided to flame me a bit, calling me lazy, although you obviously don't know anything about me and my available time? Or does your post serve any other purpose or some hidden usefulness?

I hoped it was clear, but it seems I've not made it obvious enough - it was not my intention to flame You, or - in any way - depreciate your work.

I did exactly, what I write about it - forwarded opinion from ones knowledgeable in this topic. You see, some time ago, few people asked for help with putting their work in repos. Although personally, I was no use for them, I contacted certain very helpful guy, that had experiences with repos in close past. He answered there, but in *every* such case, it was revealed that said developers *never* tried to do it before, and instead, they were using time of aforementioned "knowledgeable guy", in a way that he was literally explaining how to read instructions.

So, after learning from such events, I did exactly what I did - informed You that - based on my observation - developers don't put things into repos, cause they're lazy a bit, at least to read how to perform this quite straightforward task. I haven't told that this is true in Your case - I just forwarded my (little, i must admit) knowledge about this process to You.

I agree, that it was not sugar-coated etc, but I think that it's not the point of posting. Of course, I could as good write one sentence "read documentation, then ask particular question", but that would be probably even less sugar-coated, don't You think?

Anyway - if You want to put Your hard work (without any irony, I'm really amazed by how fast you've created such useful piece of code) into repos, read documentation, then, if You have problem with any particular thing, ask I'll be happy to forward your question to knowledgeable ones, or check myself, if I'll be capable to.

If You prefer asking someone more knowledgeable than me - it's also good option. If, in other hand, You don't care about repos, or care only if someone will do it for You / perform here specially crafted tutorial, repeating things that are well-documented in autobuilder documentations - pity, but I'll live with it.

Ps.

Really, saying that someone could try to read straightforward documentation before asking != disrespect for their work in other areas...

You asked for it. You don't even think about that YOU could upload it into the repos.

Why will it be done for ME? You think you are not responsible, because it was me who wrote it? My opinion is, it's as much your business as it is my business. You tell me I don't care, I tell you, you care less.
I don't know what's wrong in asking for cooperation in this community. Division of labor brings better and faster results. You can find good examples of cooperation in this thread, instead of "search yourself", or "read the documentation" posts .

It's tacky. Not disrespect for the work, but disrespect for the person asking, as you seem to think the person asking does not know he could read docs before asking.

Estel, i get your point, but i also get Sethkhas point, and right now i mostly agree with Sethkhas community argument.
So could you provide those links about how to upload to the repository, so i can look into how it is done when i get enough time apart from work.

Hey, I didn't wanted to start any flamewar here - really. Also, I've - possibly wrong - took sethkha post as request for tutorial derived from documentation, rather than actual request for someone to maintain package created from his work.

in that case, I will help with pleasure - to be honest, for quite long time I wanted to learn repo mechanism (mainly due to many useful things scattered all over the forum, instead of sitting into repos) but I haven't had any thing worth putting there and i didn't wanted to "learn" on someone else code, that I don't understand fully.

As for code understanding... Concept of one people coding, and another - possibly don't understanding 100% of said code - maintaining repos, is quite ridiculous to me. Mostly, because maintaining dude have small to 0 chances of solving problems, if application fail to compile in autobuilder - fixing things in code, that normally work, but doesn't stand in line with autobuilder standards, IMO require coding knowledge, at least medicore.

Of course it's doable, with correct cooperation between coder and maintainer - but IMO, such communication "tunneling" may prove consuming more time, that would it be *if* Creator maintain package himself.

Of course, I may be wrong in some/all above assumptions, and there is nothing, that should stop us from checking ourselves. If you *really* want someone else to maintain package from your code, possibly breaking further updates sending (see odyssey for getting pali's versions of kernel-power into repos correctly...)...

@electroaudio
As requested, here is first link and first thing to do:

https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/

Need to apply for upload rights. It will be granted in few days, at most.

In meantime, there are 3 buttons on the right side - "Maemo Package interface", and "Autobuilder instructions" - which point us to:

http://extras-cauldron.garage.maemo.org/HOWTO.html

Steps I've taken to find this? I clicked "Development" in main menu of maemo.org (that big thing at top of the page, You can see it 2 forum too ), typed "autobuilder" in search window, and clicked first result. Whooping 15 seconds. so, no, really, I think every developer is able to do it, no matter how much developing actual application take from her/his free time.

Anyway, I think we will just agree to disagree here, and I *really* mean no offense to Sethkha, nor I want to sound rude. Peace, and I'll be most happy to help whenever I can, even if we disagree at this little - and, to be honest, not most important - aspect.

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I'm quite sure electroaudio will make good sue of instructions, but after being back from the trip (I'm few hours before setting off) - i.e. on monday - I'll try to learn it myself also, so I'm sure together, we can put this round something into suqare repository

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This:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras

May be also useful.