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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Forum Nokia is a sister site of maemo.org that makes up the third part of the Maemo spectrum. Users go to maemo.nokia.com, community types go to maemo.org, and developers (primarily commercial) go to Maemo @ Forum Nokia. This isn't advertising (what, exactly, are they selling?).
Thank you, as always, for your helpful input.

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Internet Tablet Talk has been dropped, it's now Talk. The "front page" you're looking for is talk.maemo.org.
No. For once, you're wrong. Not only does it still exist, RogerS has recently started posting blog entries there again.

It feels really weird correcting you on some trivial point. Like the universe has just gone bizarro or something.
 

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#72
Originally Posted by qole View Post
Thank you, as always, for your helpful input.
No, thank you, as always, for your helpful sarcasm.

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No. For once, you're wrong. Not only does it still exist, RogerS has recently started posting blog entries there again.
Sorry, but you're confused.

It exists only in a state of limbo until a new blog system is set up either on maemo.org-proper or the forums. internettablettalk.com has become talk.maemo.org. For the time being, RogerS's stuff is syndicated to the forums.

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It feels really weird correcting you on some trivial point. Like the universe has just gone bizarro or something.
It feels weird because you're not correcting anything.
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Oh, and thank you GA for showing me how to increase my post count with out contributing to the topic of a thread...

<Not sarcastic or tongue in cheek>

In any other forum popping into a thread to post minor or non-existent corrections without adding any substance to that thread is called "thread crapping"

"Thread Crapping" occurs when a person comes into a thread and posts something contrary to the spirit/intent of the thread, often derailing the discussion or turning it into an argument....
Here apparently, as long as the "crap" is somehow related to maemo.org, it is acceptable and will increase your karma.

BTW, that crap you posted a while back about my use of icons is wrong.

If you look back at unedited post #59, the one I think you were referring to, you will plainly see the icon.

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And now for my thread crap...

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
It feels really weird correcting you on some trivial point. Like the universe has just gone bizarro or something.
Yes, quite bizarre, I know the feeling
 
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In any other forum popping into a thread to post minor or non-existent corrections without adding any substance to that thread is called "thread crapping"
Let's back up a few steps here because I believe there's been a rather significant misunderstanding.

So, to summarize:

gerbick made a comment about the advertising on Talk. To which sjgadsby responded that Nokia's financing of Talk means the advertising has been removed.

Then qole proceded to make what I perceive to be a snide remark about the Forum Nokia link on the site being advertising. This I assumed partially because of the lack of any indication of humor and partially because of his historical attitude towards subjects like these. Because I disagree with his view on the Forum Nokia banner, I responded explaining why I didn't believe it was advertising (advertising with qole's negative connotation—clearly it's advertising, but the good kind).

Here's where things fall apart, you seem to think I'm responding to your post following qole's. Which is confirmed by this:

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If you look back at unedited post #59, the one I think you were referring to, you will plainly see the icon.
Unfortunately I wasn't referring to your post, of course, since I generally quote posts that I'm responding to (as it helps avoid the sort of confusion we're experiencing here), but qole's.

As for the thread crapping, I was addressing a point brought up by gerbick and that was discussed by sjgadsby, qole, and yourself before I came in. I'm not sure how I'm the thread-crapper here.

So, please, drop the irrationality and stop letting your personal issues against me get in the way of civilized discussion. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Yes, quite bizarre, I know the feeling
Hey, if you want to make me respond, I'll respond.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
So, to summarize:

gerbick made a comment about the advertising on Talk. To which sjgadsby responded that Nokia's financing of Talk means the advertising has been removed.
Quite the revisionist way to see things.

I commented on how ITT, which is still active - I supplied a screenshot, I can supply another since you ignored the first one - and there were advertisements there. Which were all throughout the whole ITT site.

Now, you may argue - knowing you, you shall - that since the move from ITT to talk.maemo.org, the advertisements are singular... again, I pointed out that branding is the same as advertising since they both are fundamentally going after mindshare and thus, sales.

And I finished with "Where was the advertisement hatred back then?" (paraphrase) and you've yet to respond.

So to summarize correctly... advertisements still exist on ITT, despite your continuing commentary as "talk.maemo.org is where you should go", I can still go to ITT and see what's new there since it's still connected and that site still has advertisements and this banter about ads in the OS are rather hypocritical since the site had plenty of ads and you seemingly can't answer straight questions - see above.

Despite my total dislike of repeating anything to anybody over the age of my 7 year old son, I don't expect an answer from you that's not laced with vitriol, sarcasm and other easily disliked and unnecessary tones from a "moderator" and volunteer.

Thanks for your hard work that you do while here dude. But your demeanor needs a lot of work.

No need to reply to me. I've said my fill.

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Why are we acting liking *****es?

Sheesh...

BUT, I digress... I want to know what the hell Freemantle looks like! Harmattan looks completely impractical for a touchscreen, anyways... (At least in those screen shots.)
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I commented on how ITT, which is still active...
The old main page does indeed still exist, but presumably only because Reggie hasn't finished redirecting every bit of the old domain to the new. The page is something of a dead man walking, and because of that, I believe some folks--including GeneralAntilles--have written it off already.

...I pointed out that branding is the same as advertising since they both are fundamentally going after mindshare and thus, sales.
Very true, though there's a bit of a difference between two related sites displaying reciprocal links and a site flashing banner ads for acai berries.

And I finished with "Where was the advertisement hatred back then?"
The complaints, while present, were certainly milder*, but again, I believe there's a degree of difference between easily blockable banner ads on an otherwise free web site run by one enthusiast and theoretically non-removable ads on a device from a huge, global corporation, especially if that device might additionally demand both upfront purchase, and ongoing service, costs.

It's like the difference between the perfectly reasonable ads that support free, over the air broadcasts and a crazy idea like ads on pay cable/satellite channels. People would rise up against the later in an inst...

Aww, nuts.


* Though thanks were certainly given when they were even partially removed.
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No need to reply to me. I've said my fill.
Ah, excellent! Then I can save a lot of time trying to respond to your confused post.
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