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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Am I the only one who finds it a bit funny that Linus Torvalds' 65 year old writer/politician dad bought an N900?

I keep hearing about how the N900 is a geek phone and how it isn't ready for the masses etc etc, and people keep saying, "I'm a geek, so I love the N900, but I wouldn't recommend it to my mom," but this is quite a humorous role reversal in my eyes...
OMG, I know . . . "it's a geek phone" .... "it's a developers phone" . . . . "it's Nokia's secret underground project for NASA Scientists - this was not supposed to be a public release" . . . come on guys!?!?!?!!!

It's a cool phone for geeks because of it's linux core and open nature but I am pretty sure that NOKIA considers this a commercial device . . . It's their Flag ship phone for 2010!!!

Just goto the Nokia Store and you will realize this is a commercial release.

The UI is very pleasing and easy to use . . . geese you guys act like you have to make phone calls with terminal.


The only reason I think T-Mobile didn't pick it up is because too many of these Nokia N900 on their data plan would kill their data service with all the easy tethering and full web browsing, the Nokia N900 would be competing directly with their OTHER "FLAG SHIP DEVICE" the sidekick, and the N900 is an extremely expensive device.

Why do you guys think T-Mobile USA hasn't picked up the N900???
 
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haha...this thread makes me laugh. I wonder if Steve Ballmer drives a Ford.
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Originally Posted by mrebanza View Post
The UI is very pleasing and easy to use . . . geese you guys act like you have to make phone calls with terminal.
What? You can do it another way? I'll have to look into this. I thought writing that script with all of the dbus calls seemed a bit too complex.
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Coverage in america i know is a big factor in this, since it doesn't support cdma for the better providers,

Good thing is, N900 is completely unlocked, so you can get away with your T-Mobile sim .


I still laugh at this though, he should have tried the N900 haha.
 
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Originally Posted by mrebanza View Post
Why do you guys think T-Mobile USA hasn't picked up the N900???
Actually, it has more to do with the fact that T-Mobile couldn't brand the device to their carrier services and that it would have added a pretty significant layer of support to their portfolio. And how folks are here with N900 support questions ("get an iPhone", "package this and that," "run terminal command", etc.) just isn't worth the effort for the #3 US carrier.

All of which while making it sound like its not much, support and branding mean more to carriers than people having devices that do more with their network investment than they do.
 

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Originally Posted by debernardis View Post
BTW, what phone RMS has?
If he did buy the N900 he would have to rewrite all those closed binary blobs (like the telephony stack), before using it. Then again since this is maemo we are talking about he can hack it as much as he likes

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Originally Posted by ARJWright View Post
Actually, it has more to do with the fact that T-Mobile couldn't brand the device to their carrier services and that it would have added a pretty significant layer of support to their portfolio. And how folks are here with N900 support questions ("get an iPhone", "package this and that," "run terminal command", etc.) just isn't worth the effort for the #3 US carrier.

All of which while making it sound like its not much, support and branding mean more to carriers than people having devices that do more with their network investment than they do.
I would disagree about branding. After all, T-Mobile (US) carries the Google Nexus and it is aggressively not carrier branded. As far as support, that might be the problem. I've never seen the carrier support documentation and training Nokia produced for the N900. Maybe it was just too complicated or maybe it was not detailed enough for a carrier to outsource it without further investment.

I personally think they are more interested in the response to the N900 than in the sales. This is a platform for Nokia to test things on - an alpha release. I would expect a beta release with a capacitive screen and no keyboard later this year. After that we may see the final product.
 
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
I disagree, it depends on if your definition of Linux is based on

a) does it use a linux kernel

If so any device that does, (like TIVO I think) can be considered a Linux device

b) if it embodies the ideas associated with Linux (openess)

For most people (regardless of what Linus thinks) Linux is b, not a.
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
I would disagree about branding. After all, T-Mobile (US) carries the Google Nexus and it is aggressively not carrier branded. As far as support, that might be the problem. I've never seen the carrier support documentation and training Nokia produced for the N900. Maybe it was just too complicated or maybe it was not detailed enough for a carrier to outsource it without further investment.

I personally think they are more interested in the response to the N900 than in the sales. This is a platform for Nokia to test things on - an alpha release. I would expect a beta release with a capacitive screen and no keyboard later this year. After that we may see the final product.
The Nexus isn't a good comparison as Google said on its introduction that T-Mobile wouldn't be handling support for it. And to date, Google handles all support for it. Nokia does the same for all devices they sell not on the carrier deck.

Support for an unpolished OS is very hard. This forum should demonstrate that. No way a carrier - even a small one - wants to go through certain issues.
 
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Originally Posted by ARJWright View Post
The Nexus isn't a good comparison as Google said on its introduction that T-Mobile wouldn't be handling support for it. And to date, Google handles all support for it. Nokia does the same for all devices they sell not on the carrier deck.

Support for an unpolished OS is very hard. This forum should demonstrate that. No way a carrier - even a small one - wants to go through certain issues.
And even Google had problems supporting people on the Nexus One originally (I think they only recently added telephone customer support).
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