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Originally Posted by Northerner
Well I'd say that we're in total agreement on this fact and I'll add that I agree with your reasoning behind it [mismanagement of platform]... so - no boulderdash to be had here.
Boulderdash. The only reason that there is a lack of professional developers is because of Nokia's mis-management of the platform (no paid apps, no formal roadmap).
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Originally Posted by cashclientel
In that case, have a beer (B)
Well I'd say that we're in total agreement on this fact and I'll add that I agree with your reasoning behind it [mismanagement of platform]... so - no boulderdash to be had here.
I would note though, that hoppa123 has every right to be angry at Nokia's lack of support, and justifiably more so with each failed repair, no matter what the ever-faithful Nokia lapdogs in this forum might say.
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2010-03-17
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Correct title.....N900, best phone I ever had!........don`t know what other people are smoking!
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Originally Posted by Texrat
As far as I can see it's a genuine complaint about a faulty phone that Nokia will not fix or replace - a situation I believe you know all too well at first hand.
This thread title alone is already cause for provocation. Let's not let the subject matter erupt into another flame war. Thanks.
Perhaps, with all your dealings with Nokia over the USB port issue and other 'duties', you could advise the OP on the best strategy to get this resolved?
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Originally Posted by Paul Lahner
I work 5 years in two companies which manufacture HW devices and software on Linux platform. It is not free, BTW.
NThe N900's problem is the lack of professional third party developers.
That applies to everything that is Linux. It applies to HW manufacturers, to suppliers of the various Linux distributions and to suppliers of applications.
If you have a problem it's only the community of Linux users and all the online forums.
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Originally Posted by Paul Lahner
... routers, NAS devices etc...
Hi Clueless,
>>>linux is everywhere. 60% of all the commercial websites you >>>visit run linux.
You are referring to Linux on servers, such as RHEL or SLES, which do receive professional support from IBM, Novell, Red Hat and so on.
No problem there.
I am referring to Linux on the desktop. I have been using SuSE Linux for over 10 years (since 9.3) and, whenever I upgrade to a new release I spend weeks of fixing, tweaking and so on.
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Originally Posted by Northerner
I was referring to namecalling... like "Nokia lapdogs". That's flamebaiting and not productive dialog. It isn't just you, either, which is why my post was generic.
As far as I can see it's a genuine complaint about a faulty phone that Nokia will not fix or replace - a situation I believe you know all too well at first hand.
Perhaps, with all your dealings with Nokia over the USB port issue and other 'duties', you could advise the OP on the best strategy to get this resolved?
I'll look into the other poster's issue and see if I have any recommendations. But note that what helped most in the USB issue was calm but firm persistence.
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Originally Posted by Northerner
Advice: Be careful with electronics sockets, especially with micro-sockets.
As far as I can see it's a genuine complaint about a faulty phone that Nokia will not fix or replace - a situation I believe you know all too well at first hand.
Perhaps, with all your dealings with Nokia over the USB port issue and other 'duties', you could advise the OP on the best strategy to get this resolved?
Just generic advice based on my own expertise. I suffered a couple of times the socket connection problem starting from my first notebook and even some phones too. I don't expect Nokia to be exceptional here.
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This thread seems to have lost the original plot entirely.
Hoppa123 started the thread reporting an n900 that is not behaving correctly. There is no real suggestion that the problems with the n900 in question are common to all n900s.
It is hard to fathom how a phone can behave this way. The hardware seems OK and the software has all been replaced. The symptoms sound like software- yet if it was software we would all see similar results.
Many people are taking this thread as criticism of the n900 when it is functioning as almost all other n900s function. I think hoppa123 should again edit his original focus to avoid distracting comments on the merits of the n900 in general as opposed to the specific issues he is experiencing. It is clear many readers are very quick to defend the n900 in general and don't read sufficiently to get past that point. There IS software available for the n900 that has bugs- the freedom get hold of untested software if choose is part of the freedom of the n900, and it does come with consequences.
I think it needs to be clear to all that this is not a complaint about what happens when you choose untested software or about the n900 in general- it is about a unit that appears faulty. I suspect even Nokia service are not getting that point clearly enough.
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With the log of errors this particular n900 has had, it seems crazy that Nokia do not replace it. I would be trying to elevate the issue with nokia support.
Hoppa123 started the thread reporting an n900 that is not behaving correctly. There is no real suggestion that the problems with the n900 in question are common to all n900s.
It is hard to fathom how a phone can behave this way. The hardware seems OK and the software has all been replaced. The symptoms sound like software- yet if it was software we would all see similar results.
Many people are taking this thread as criticism of the n900 when it is functioning as almost all other n900s function. I think hoppa123 should again edit his original focus to avoid distracting comments on the merits of the n900 in general as opposed to the specific issues he is experiencing. It is clear many readers are very quick to defend the n900 in general and don't read sufficiently to get past that point. There IS software available for the n900 that has bugs- the freedom get hold of untested software if choose is part of the freedom of the n900, and it does come with consequences.
I think it needs to be clear to all that this is not a complaint about what happens when you choose untested software or about the n900 in general- it is about a unit that appears faulty. I suspect even Nokia service are not getting that point clearly enough.
wish that is unte
With the log of errors this particular n900 has had, it seems crazy that Nokia do not replace it. I would be trying to elevate the issue with nokia support.
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As a consumer I would be perfectly happy with my N900 if it had proper navigation (Ovi 3 or Sygic), an Exchange mail client that didn't take nearly a minute to open the Inbox, and a battery that lasted more than half a day. That would at least bring the day-to-day functions up to that of a mid-range smartphone.
The reasons why it hasn't (and is increasingly unlikely to have) is purely down to Nokia.
3rd party developers aren't the issue - the fiasco with Sygic is a perfect example of that.
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