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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
I think the point is that while you were a contributing factor you are not the sole focus of his disagreement.

You aren't the only moderator that does the things you do (at least, I don't think so). So yes, he COULD have PM'd you specifically about YOUR thread you closed: but I'm sure PB had several threads in mind when he posted, yours just being the last one (most recent) that happened.

So while he could have gotten clarification on yours specifically, that wasn't really what he was after.. (if I'm reading him correctly.)
Understood, but the fact is I did close the thread that triggered this one, and my final comments were addressed-- at first obliquely and then specifically. Couple that with the fact that I have closed several threads of that nature lately and there was really no way of divorcing me from the actions.

I got my hackles up mainly because I saw a defense of rank behavior at the root of the protests. Maybe that was the wrong aspect on which to focus. It's just that's where I'm coming from vis-a-vis the subject.

I'm just stymied on identifying a common complaint and then moving to a majority-agreed solution that doesn't negatively impact a rational minority. I don't even think it's possible-- which again is why my approach will default to the will of the general community. And the only complaint I get from the rank and file is that moderation is not hEAVY enough...
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I agree that we need a rant subforum, which doesn't appear in the new posts search. Let's create it and be liberal in moving threads there.
 

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Here's my concern.. as MeeGo becomes more and more, we will mostly be migrating over to the MeeGo forums.

I do not want this forum's atmosphere to migrate with it.
In that respect at least, we are blessed by MeeGo being vendor independant. People complaining about a vendor on MeeGo's forums are very much in the wrong place, and I think as a result we won't see so much of it.

(on my n900, so please be patient if you want a reply.)
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
There is.. unfortunately there's also a point at which you have to realize that what you once loved is lost and is not returning.

Granted, I'm not saying we're there yet: But I am saying we need to keep a realistic perspective, and if we can't get the situation improving then T.M.O. will likely simply be a ghost of what it once was, and nothing left to fight for.
I think we just need to make a subforum for them to let off their steam. A designated red light district. With that in place, then it's easier to see who's barging on inappropriately into other threads just to troll so they can be dealt with properly.

In a couple of months, they'll move on to MeeGo forums anyway
but will we all as well?
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I find that looking at the big picture helps. Also, putting myself in their shoes helps relief my anger.

I can very much relate to the Asshats. Before the n900. I did not know what Maemo was. I wouldn't have recognized the name. n900 opened the door here.

That's simply because during the begining or even now. To truely feel happy about using the n900. You need to come HERE and get the goodies. There absolutely nothing to help from the official Nokia channels side. That's why people come here you see. I get that. And when people come, they come in all sorts. We have to adapt, that's all.
 

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I really think we need a vote with Reggie's involvement in a "Backyard", a real "By the flagpole", or "Rant" subcategory. So far the general attitude of this thread is in support of such an area (including leaving it out of New Posts).

I've seen this brought up several times, but never seen anything officially addressed on it.
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Originally Posted by w00t View Post
In that respect at least, we are blessed by MeeGo being vendor independant. People complaining about a vendor on MeeGo's forums are very much in the wrong place, and I think as a result we won't see so much of it.

(on my n900, so please be patient if you want a reply.)
I did see that thread over there regarding a rather strict-no-care policy regarding vendors. Sending them back their vendor fora.

I think that'll help somewhat.
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In general: I apologize to you all for getting defensive. Just a lot of frustration building lately on the overall topic. Damed if one does and damned if one doesn't. And as always I can't help but think that silent and heavy moderation is sooo much easier... for the moderator.
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We all instinctively think the rant subforum may be a good solution to this problem, but perhaps we may be overlooking something negative about it?
Let's hear why a rant subforum may not be a good idea....

excessive amount of negativity that can snowball into a crowd of /b/tards??
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
In general: I apologize to you all for getting defensive. Just a lot of frustration building lately on the overall topic. Damed if one does and damned if one doesn't. And as always I can't help but think that silent and heavy moderation is sooo much easier... for the moderator.
Yes but is the easy solution really the best?... Ever?
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