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Originally Posted by nodevel
hmmm..... wider user base. And with that maybe more apps. And maybe the finally decide to implement some kind of payment in the store. Developers probably want to eat something, right.
It is great that the community port is moving forward...
But I have to ask - what's in it for Jolla? It is quite clear that Fairphone does not want to pay for the license and does not want to contribute to SailfishOS porting either, so they are waiting for someone else ("community") to do it.
Jolla is hardly in a position where they could through money around to port to devices whose manufactures are not willing to contribute.
Because, they will never get anywhere with just OS licenses. They need something that the end users are willing to spend money on, not just the OEMs. And ATM they have nothing to sell, not even those overpriced plastic TOHs. And I'm sure that license price would be (is, if that's the deal with intex) way less than 29€.
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Originally Posted by nodevel
Thats not strictly true. I've met with a few of the Fairphone guys and generally they like and want to support Sailfish.
It is quite clear that Fairphone does not want to pay for the license and does not want to contribute to SailfishOS porting either, so they are waiting for someone else ("community") to do it.
However, they are also only a small team and the extra burden of having to support multiple operating systems is likely too large to bare at this point in time. Licencing fees can be put into the purchase price of the device, but other lifecycle related things are a bit harder to fully absorb up front.
Would people pay extra for a Sailfish Fairphone? given the transparency of showing where the extra money goes (alien-dalvik, exchange, xt9 .etc) I think its reasonable, and we may see it at some point.
EDIT: Also, Jollas hardware adaptation team has been a bit gutted by the recent troubles, so getting the community to do the initial work (mainly enabled by Fairphone) considerably reduces what Jolla needs to do internally.
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Originally Posted by kinggo
why 29? where have you read it?
hmmm..... wider user base. And with that maybe more apps. And maybe the finally decide to implement some kind of payment in the store. Developers probably want to eat something, right.
Because, they will never get anywhere with just OS licenses. They need something that the end users are willing to spend money on, not just the OEMs. And ATM they have nothing to sell, not even those overpriced plastic TOHs. And I'm sure that license price would be (is, if that's the deal with intex) way less than 29€.
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29€ is the price for TOH. And jolla couldn't charge that much per license. Or at least I think that they can't. Especially since jolla doesn't offer anything more after that. Yet.
Anyway, the point was that they don't monetize even from basic things that people are willing to pay for. I'm still looking for keira black. And I paid QuasarMX out of jolla store
Anyway, the point was that they don't monetize even from basic things that people are willing to pay for. I'm still looking for keira black. And I paid QuasarMX out of jolla store
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2015-12-28
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Originally Posted by kinggo
Does that include alien-dalvik? Prices should fall seeing how community got android running (alpha still, but still impressive)
29€ is the price for TOH. And jolla couldn't charge that much per license. Or at least I think that they can't. Especially since jolla doesn't offer anything more after that. Yet.
Anyway, the point was that they don't monetize even from basic things that people are willing to pay for. I'm still looking for keira black. And I paid QuasarMX out of jolla store
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Originally Posted by nodevel
Currently Jolla does not have devices what people can buy. So this should be their 1. priority currently for their survival.
But I have to ask - what's in it for Jolla? It is quite clear that Fairphone does not want to pay for the license and does not want to contribute to SailfishOS porting either, so they are waiting for someone else ("community") to do it.
Jolla should try to get these to devices out as soon as possible to get users for their OS.
1. Intex is coming when? This would serve some customers but not all as its low cost phone.
2. Fairphone2 would bring more people.
Originally Posted by r0kk3rz;
I would buy and pay extra if they would give SailfishOS option with extra cost.Would people pay extra for a Sailfish Fairphone?
3. Jolla tablet. They should get it out to increase customer base.
4. There is still cap for high end device which Fairphone2 might not fill
One option (later on) would be that Jolla would ditch Alien dalvik to save money and start building their own based on community version?
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Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki
liar's android implementation
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One option (later on) would be that Jolla would ditch Alien dalvik to save money and start building their own based on community version?
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As long as there is no Dalvik support for Fairphone2 I think it will be a show stopper for many people 
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And where is the actual download? I don't buy something when there is no evidence that it's really working with SFOS.
. And where is the actual download? I don't buy something when there is no evidence that it's really working with SFOS.
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Originally Posted by MaemoUser
Have not seen download to be available yet.
And where is the actual download? I don't buy something when there is no evidence that it's really working with SFOS.
I bet that they are waiting MWC16 to announce that.
http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/
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But I have to ask - what's in it for Jolla? It is quite clear that Fairphone does not want to pay for the license and does not want to contribute to SailfishOS porting either, so they are waiting for someone else ("community") to do it.
Jolla is hardly in a position where they could through money around to port to devices whose manufactures are not willing to contribute.