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admiral0	2010-05-19 , 10:57
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Qt 4.6.2 present?

stanleyhorse	2010-05-19 , 11:06
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I've been having an interesting problem. Ever since installing the leaked PR1.2 firmware, my media player is denying the existance of any music on my phone (even though I have about 20gb of it). Plus, the images app does not find any pictures. If i use file manager to navigate to the file i want to open, both the images app and the media player open it jut fine... any suggestions???

olighak	2010-05-19 , 12:11
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Originally Posted by stanleyhorse

I've been having an interesting problem. Ever since installing the leaked PR1.2 firmware, my media player is denying the existance of any music on my phone (even though I have about 20gb of it). Plus, the images app does not find any pictures. If i use file manager to navigate to the file i want to open, both the images app and the media player open it jut fine... any suggestions???

Reflash the OS and flash the EMMC?

I have neither of those problems

Netweaver	2010-05-19 , 12:34
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reset of the tracker db could solve it.
Have a look at this thread for more info and suggestions :
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52360

	bockersjv	2010-05-19 , 20:35
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I think PR1.2 is great BUT and it is a big but, it is flakey in some areas. There are times when the N900 gets very laggy. This can be realy anoying as you press on an icon and nothing happens, only then 5 secs later 5 versions of the same site attempt to load. It is very clear the leaked version is work in progress. I still prefer it to 1.1 but there are serious issues which could be why Nokia are still working on it. Battery life is very much improved and this to me could be the issue. it is as if the phone goes into sleep mode and takes time to wake up when you start interacting with it.

Other thing I have noticed is the lack of resonse to clicking on link on websites. It can take 10 or more attempts at times!

All other things are better, media player works well, video is far better and picture viewing and editing is better.

Oh yes one more. Several emails refuse to send, they just remain in the outbox indefinitely.

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geneven	2010-05-19 , 20:42
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This is how Nokia missed an opportunity. Once the leak happened, they could have made an official version available, with appropriate disclaimers. Instead they let their eager customers put themselves in jeopardy. Why? The leaked version in general is perfectly safe; it's only the method of release that caused a problem. Nokia turned victory into defeat for itself.

	bockersjv	2010-05-19 , 21:47
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I disagree. The release may be safe but it is not ready for general release. Why should Nokia be hurried by an illegal leak.

I took a big risk, and was ready for trouble. Leaked PR1.2 is ok and still better than 1.1 but it is not finished. Doubtless Nokia have a project plan, itcannot be rushed and still takes 9 women 9 months to make one baby.

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	ndi	2010-05-20 , 10:36
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Originally Posted by geneven

This is how Nokia missed an opportunity. Once the leak happened, they could have made an official version available, with appropriate disclaimers.

All releases have disclaimers. A release from Nokia is a release from Nokia and I expect the darned thing to work. If a company releases a lemon with a note that says "Warning: may be a lemon" the all they have to do is tag all releases and to hell with it.

There's a reason most don't install it, or custom kernels, or whatnot. I NEED the device day to day.

Finally, the test base for leaked PR is minimal. Hundreds at most. Final PR wil run on a thousand more machines. This is akin to saying a war is safe because 200 made it back. You have too small of a sample, and sample bias because people who risk it have some knowledge, some adventure and some understanding of risk involved.

A Public Release is, as the name suggests, public.

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lemmyslender	2010-05-20 , 12:06
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Originally Posted by ndi

All releases have disclaimers. A release from Nokia is a release from Nokia and I expect the darned thing to work. If a company releases a lemon with a note that says "Warning: may be a lemon" the all they have to do is tag all releases and to hell with it.

There's a reason most don't install it, or custom kernels, or whatnot. I NEED the device day to day.

Finally, the test base for leaked PR is minimal. Hundreds at most. Final PR wil run on a thousand more machines. This is akin to saying a war is safe because 200 made it back. You have too small of a sample, and sample bias because people who risk it have some knowledge, some adventure and some understanding of risk involved.

A Public Release is, as the name suggests, public.

Companies release beta software all the time, it's your choice to install it or not. There are even beta releases of OS's, again your choice to install it.

How many people do you think Nokia has testing PR1.2? Is their sample size too small? I bet it's less than a thousand

. Most of those testers are pretty close to the project and aren't "normal" users. By your logic, Nokia would never release PR1.2 due to sample size / type of tester.

I'll bet the installed base for the leaked 1.2 would double the sample pool, and with people that are likely to push the limits, exposing more bugs, if handled properly.

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Alex Atkin UK	2010-05-20 , 13:39
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Originally Posted by bockersjv

I think PR1.2 is great BUT and it is a big but, it is flakey in some areas. There are times when the N900 gets very laggy. This can be realy anoying as you press on an icon and nothing happens, only then 5 secs later 5 versions of the same site attempt to load. It is very clear the leaked version is work in progress. I still prefer it to 1.1 but there are serious issues which could be why Nokia are still working on it. Battery life is very much improved and this to me could be the issue. it is as if the phone goes into sleep mode and takes time to wake up when you start interacting with it.

Other thing I have noticed is the lack of resonse to clicking on link on websites. It can take 10 or more attempts at times!

All other things are better, media player works well, video is far better and picture viewing and editing is better.

Oh yes one more. Several emails refuse to send, they just remain in the outbox indefinitely.

I have experienced all those problems on PR1.0,1.1 and 1.1.1.