so, somebody new to maemo buys N900 and surfs to maemo.org.

finds out there is a wiki at wiki.maemo.org. what will he get?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page

what the f....?!?!?!?

who wants to come back to page like that?
why isn't this page on the list: http://wiki.maemo.org/new_users

why doesn't it show anywhere? i must remember the exact url to get there. what can i do to make it visible somewhere?

I have a strong opinion that all titles to category user (look quote) should have only noob-topics. advanced users surely know what to click if they want to see more pages....

here http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page I added a link to New Users as per your request under that list -_-

Of course, as it's a wiki, feel free to edit it yourself.

i have no tools to alter the listing quoted in the first post. i started the new users - page and i am glad that also others contributed to it.

and i'd like more people to contribute into more noob-friendly areas in wiki. dev - side is very good for what i've looked.

I'll be doing some time with wiki so there would be more stuff for noobs but i don't have so much spare time that i could do it by myself before week 44.

Ah, maybe Main_Page is locked. Well I guess without direct editing access, you could view the source, and copy and paste into a new page as a mock-up, and link to it here to see what people think of your proposal.

(Please note, I'm using "you" here to refer to any person reading this thread).

It's not locked. It just references some "templates" (think external) pages that have the content "frames". Of course please don't ruin the wiki for the rest of us. Keep changes tasteful, thank you.

Shouldn't be 'New users' at the top?

the wiki is a high priority of the council... it WILL be improved.

It better be....

...for your sake.

In the thread announcing the creation of that Maemo Basics page, i advocated putting a prominent link to it on the landing page (the Intro tab) of maemo.org. The current landing page is butt ugly, but besides that, it isn't suitably simple for a brand-new "everyday Joe" would-be Maemo enthusiast.

Unfortunately, i have no control over what goes on the landing page.

My recommendation was:
-Rename the landing page/tab to "Welcome"
-Put a prominent link on it for "Maemo Basics" wiki page and make it more of a welcome page. Explain what it currently does explain, then mention that a read-through of the rest of the side-menu articles is a good way to get up to speed and link to the next one at the bottom of the page. Fix the graphic and layout to be less fugly
-Give the same "breadcrumb" linking treatment to the rest of the tutorial/intro pages
-add another page at the end of "Maemo Basics" called "Getting Involved" that walks people through the ecology and structure of maemo.org. Basically, make this an alternative walk-through that is intended for the most basic, mainstream users. Focus more on the non-developer aspects of maemo.org and explain things in ways that won't make their eyes glaze over, or cause them to run away screaming and never come back

The current landing page "Intro", as well as the links on the side that are meant to be a walk-through of sorts, are targetted more at experienced computer nerds/developers. Even so, it's not intuitive that you should step through the list of entries on the sidebar to get up to speed.

In short, the first-impression maemo.org experience is very lacking right now. Considering how slick the actual user experience on the device is, we probably should polish our first impressions here.