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2009-12-16 , 17:22
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Ok, many people are getting bricks because they have rebooted 17 times without powering off the device:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6350#c39

To repeat: If you reboot your device 17 times without completely powering it off and disconnecting power, YOU WILL BRICK.

To solve: after a few reboots, make sure you completely power off the system.

If you do brick due to this bug, this is how to recover without reflashing:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37420


Have fun,

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2009-12-16 , 17:31
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Can you explain to us what you mean by completely powering off the device?
Meaning you power off via the off button or remove battery??
 
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2009-12-16 , 17:31
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Reboot? Do you mean the odd reboots some people get?

Cause I can't actually get mine to reboot. Not even if I do a "shutdown -r now" on the shell.
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2009-12-16 , 17:44
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Originally Posted by Doc_Raj View Post
Can you explain to us what you mean by completely powering off the device?
Meaning you power off via the off button or remove battery??
Poweroff via button and make sure you have the power cable disconnected. This bug is just starting to "unfold" right now, so details aren't 100% certain yet.



The cause of this problem was in the CLOSED SOURCE BINARY PROPRIETARY PoS getbootstate. This program should be Free Software.

If you think closed software binary proprietary bugs are bad because you can't correctly fix them (as I would be doing right now), VOTE for this bug please:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7019

Or we can just wait for Nokia to update their proprietary program and we can have the fix when they get around to releasing it, and people can have bricks abound...

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2009-12-16 , 17:44
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok View Post
Reboot? Do you mean the odd reboots some people get?

Cause I can't actually get mine to reboot. Not even if I do a "shutdown -r now" on the shell.
I mean any kind of reboot. "sudo reboot" works for me, fwiw.
 
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2009-12-16 , 17:47
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Ya I'm a little confused as well. The way I go about doing a "Re-Boot" is by clicking on the power button and when the menu drops down, I choose "Switch Off" and then I just power it back on after a minute or two.

Is this considered a "Re-Boot" or "Completely Powering Off the Device" as you say?
 
jebba is offline jebba
2009-12-16 , 17:58
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To see your current boot count run this:

Code:
cat /var/lib/dsme/boot_count
If it hits 50, you're hosed. It increments by *3* (THREE) each time you reboot.
 

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2009-12-16 , 18:03
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Mine is currently zero, so I'm in the clear for a while. I'll make a note of the info though, it could come in useful.
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Laughingstok is offline Laughingstok
2009-12-16 , 18:03
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Mine says 0. What happens if I hard code a 50 in there? It will not boot? What reason?
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2009-12-16 , 18:05
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Interesting - I very rarely use the reboot command - but thanks for the heads up
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