Sounds nice...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1182...oo_hs&ru=yahoo

You are in the wrong forum.

Not so possitive on engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/i...first-reviews/

Mossberg sounds like he's in love with the iPhone, almost every fault he identified had a "saving grace" feature which meant it was the best thing since sliced bread... I wonder how much Apple paid him!

An iPhone will $2000 (when you factor in the cheapest AT&T $59.99/month contract before tax) - a lot of money for a phone which needs the battery replaced after 300 cycles, has no cut & paste, a dodgey contact manager, no A2DP support (it's a 4/8GB iPod for crying out loud!), no Flash support, no video recording ability, no MMS and the OS takes up 700MB memory (WOW! That's insane!!)

All these faults on such an expensive phone make it sound somewhat less appealing - I'm sure it will sell to the fanbois but I don't see how the eye candy UI can make up for some of these gaffs which will no doubt be addressed in the v2 product, along with improved mobile phone connectivity (3G and HSDPA is a must).

No A2DP, cut & paste, mp3 ring tones, video recording, voice dialing, 3G, GPS, removable battery, expandable storage, Adobe Flash... and above all no instant messaging!!!

Can you hear the sound of deflating enthusiasm?

I bet they don't support mp3 ring tones so we can all start recognizing (and getting annoyed by it) iPhone's ring sounds in couple of months.

Does anybody know if you can use the Iphone as a modem for your macbook (or N800)? If people are forced to buy a unlimited dataplan, I would like to use it on a laptop also.
If not, can you remove the AT&T simcard and put it in a normal Edge phone that allows modem usage? The Iphone comes with the simcard pre-installed, but it doesn't say if you can remove it and use it in a different phone.
I understand that you need to activate the iphone (=buy a two year AT&T contract) before you can use it. But is it Simlocked? (so could you put in a different card if you are in a foreign country for example?)
Most providers in Europe don't sell locked phones to people that buy a service plan. Mostly Prepaid phones get locked.
Does the Ipod/webbrowser/email/camera part still work if you remove the AT&T card (or put in a different sim card if locked)?
What happens if your service plan stops at AT&T? (can you still use the device?)

I think it would be absolutely criminal if people need to keep paying an insane $60,- a month just to use it as an Ipod.

the reviews don't say yet.

It's locked to AT&T and you can't remove the simcard.

thanks, that was fast :-)

Any idea if you can use it as a modem for your laptop?

You can't use it as a modem as well. If you want your laptop connected, carry a second phone with you

And according to the review, you can't exchange the battery? Throw the device into the junk after 100-200 of recharging???

This whole "factoring in the plan" cost stuff is ********. Nobody says that about free phones.

If you pickup a free Samsung Sync, you still sign a 2yr contract, and if you want 3g data... you pay for that as well. Please stop being ******ed. The phone doesn't cost $2500.

That said. Why the hell doesn't the iPhone have copy and paste.

I do foresee ichat, Flash, A2DP and video recording coming in an update. Apple stated that they will add features for free as time goes on.

Edit:

Sorry millhouse, my anger isn't directed at you... I was just annoyed with all the blogs stating "omg $2000 because the plan".

If everyone wants to get technical, you can cancel the plan for $175 30 seconds after you activate and you'll be left with a nice Video iPod and Safari.

I think that device sucks!

-$500 - $600 bucks is really expensive for any phone
-AND you need to pay at least $60 a month for 2 years to AT&T for calls and data

-battery can't be changed (need to send it to Apple after 300-400 charges, and buy a new battery!)
-you can't remove the sim card (insane roaming costs)
-Memory isn't expendable, so you are stuck at 4GB or 8GB (Since flash memory is evolving really rapidly, that is very little: Samsung even released a 8GB MicroSD card not so long ago)
-No 3G support, Edge really sucks when compared to UMTS (I know I had both)
-The device doesn't have a flash, so the camera only works well outdoors
-it has a navigation system, but no GPS (manual position input)
-no stereo Bluetooth headset support

-you can't record videos
-You buy an unlimited dataplan but you can't use it as a modem
-you have a 'full' webbrowser, but your don't have Flash, Java, Real or Windows media support (and it is only 320x480 pixels, very little compared to the E90 or N800)
-You can't add any programs of your own: completely locked, only "Web 2.0"
-no bluetooth printing support
-no editing Word or Excel files (read only)
-no hand writing recognition (only a virtual keyboard)
-no MMS (I don't know anyone who uses it, but all other phones support it)
-no voice dialing
-no instant messaging/chat (no IRC, no MSN, no Ichat)
-No Voip over Wifi (no SIP, no Skype)
-no copy paste support

The Iphone is probably the most limited smartphone ever produced!
I agree that it does a lot of things well, but simply doesn't do all the other stuff.


I heard mixed messages about the text input. (it seems to work Ok)
And How is the screen? Is it transflective ? (I was under the impression that that wasn't possible with touchscreens). Does it work well outdoors? (The Prada can be difficult to read outdoors, as is the 770 and N800 is very bright sunlight, the N95 is perfectly visible in any condition)