Poll: You want buy?
Poll Options
You want buy?

Reply
Thread Tools
Posts: 1,104 | Thanked: 5,652 times | Joined on Feb 2010 @ Holland
#1
Chronological path of activities
1. Jolla updates Sailfish OS, toggles in lock-screen customizable
2. Software tutorial is made for BT toggle in lock-screen
3. Kimmo sees picture in tutorial, grabs some electronics
4. Dirk (#me) thinks of a way to expand this idea into a product and posts a new thread.

Concept
So now we are here. Using my paint skills I have made this:

Six toggles on the back of the phone, fully configurable. Also, one hidden button, usable as camera shutter (but more on that later).

Goal of thread
In this thread I would like to show progress in this project and poll the demand. Use the options above to show your interest, I will determine if I will make some, or a lot.

Costs: 45E (updated 15-8)
-below 50, as requested
-sum of materials (30) + R&D (15)
Profits will be used to buy some bread and develop moar stuff

Colors
- White, Blue, Red, Purple, Yellow, Pink, Green, Orange
- Black, Alumide (+3E)

Project planning
Sending PCBs to board manufacturer -- check
Ordering parts -- check
Delivery boards -- first half of July --check
** summer holiday all of July **
Fitting OH around PCB -- first halfish of August
Sending OHs to new owners -- first half of September

Challenge
To minimize added thickness, all the components will go on the phone-side of the pcb (except for the switches ofcourse). The available space is located in the cavity below the microsd slot. This gives me 9*15*1mm to fit all components.The components so far: eeprom, gpio, sensor controller, voltage regulator, 3 caps and 2 resistors.


What to do with toggles?
- BT on/off
- Silence
- 4G on/off
- Wifi on/off
- Alarm on/off ?
- Specific daemon on/off
- Max/min screen brightness
- What would you want?

What to do with invisible touch button?
- Camera shutter
- Answering calls
- Pause music
- What would you want?

FAQ
Do you wanna know how many phones I have? -- No
Let me tell you about my experience with Win8.1! -- No
Add keyboard/battery/infrared/laser/selfdestruct/etc! --No
Howso people if now humens cuz ima gerl blable why not?!! -- Thats not english.
I uses to have a phone with buttons! -- Cool..

Buyers
Okay, so first 6 DipTOHs for 45:
-Rauha
-Kabouik
-MemphisX
-Koiruus
-MartinK

(2nd batch of 6)
-d0n_Egg1 -> Red
-carton
-Koiruus
-Cybette
-asys3
-haliava

Last edited by dirkvl; 2014-09-26 at 08:10.
 

The Following 22 Users Say Thank You to dirkvl For This Useful Post:
Guest | Posts: n/a | Thanked: 0 times | Joined on
#2
Sign me up, NOW
 
Mikkosssss's Avatar
Posts: 645 | Thanked: 519 times | Joined on Apr 2012 @ Finland
#3
I think you should have this on TOHKB2 too.
__________________
────────────────────
Try:My N9 bootvideo
 

The Following User Says Thank You to Mikkosssss For This Useful Post:
Posts: 1,104 | Thanked: 5,652 times | Joined on Feb 2010 @ Holland
#4
Originally Posted by Mikkosssss View Post
I think you should have this on TOHKB2 too.
You are not a strong reader are you?

Originally Posted by dirkvl View Post
FAQ
Add keyboard/battery/infrared/laser/selfdestruct/etc! -- No
#no
 

The Following User Says Thank You to dirkvl For This Useful Post:
Posts: 284 | Thanked: 661 times | Joined on Aug 2013 @ Finland
#5
Since I answered the poll "No, I want moar functionality", let me explain my reasoning. I think this feature could go very well with eg TOHOLED, but I don't think I'd buy it if it was the only feature, even though it is a cool feature. I know it's hopeful thinking to add this to TOHKBD (by judging the response of dirkvl), but coupled with TOHOLED, I'd probably buy it.

I don't think it would even make the OLED Other Half any thicker, judging by the picture, and there would even be synergy between functionalities, with OLED having the capability to show what was toggled on/off (this probably needs community coding effort). That would be neat.
 

The Following User Says Thank You to Thoke For This Useful Post:
Mikkosssss's Avatar
Posts: 645 | Thanked: 519 times | Joined on Apr 2012 @ Finland
#6
I didint ask you to add keyboard to this. I asked you to add this to keyboard too.
__________________
────────────────────
Try:My N9 bootvideo
 

The Following User Says Thank You to Mikkosssss For This Useful Post:
Posts: 1,104 | Thanked: 5,652 times | Joined on Feb 2010 @ Holland
#7
Originally Posted by Mikkosssss View Post
I didint ask you to add keyboard to this. I asked you to add this to keyboard too.
Originally Posted by Thoke View Post
I think this feature could go very well with eg TOHOLED
you are both in the wrong thread but to answer you both:

Important in developing OHs
- Keep it simple
- One step at a time

Timeline in developing über-oh:
1. build everything separately
2. test and review everything separately
3. combine features

Adding stuff to keyboard-oh
Development of the keyboard otherhalf is a lot more complex and so will take more time and more developments costs. Adding untested features to this will increase development costs, delay release date by extra troubleshooting and will reduce the chance of it ever be completed.

Asking for stuff to be added to keyboard
As stated in the keyboard thread:
Originally Posted by dirkvl View Post
-Use this thing/component/whatever!
Send this kind of messages over PM
Just posting it here is -just like steering you car into oncoming trafic- counter-productive. I am thinking of ways to improve the keyboard every day, you can suspect I've already thought adding this. Having to explain this over and over is not helping me whatsoever.

Conclusion
In both my threads I have stated clearly what my intentions are for adding functionality and have suggested what to do if you can't fight the urge to shout 'keyboard!'. I understand everyone wants the 'über-otherhalf', but can only be the result of a long iterative process (stated above). I do not have the time, manpower, knowledge and dough to do this overnight.

Last edited by dirkvl; 2014-06-17 at 17:49.
 

The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to dirkvl For This Useful Post:
Posts: 284 | Thanked: 661 times | Joined on Aug 2013 @ Finland
#8
Yes, understood. With one-man-business it's hard to develop the Dream Solution many of us yearn for, except with continued financial support and patience from us to wait for it.

I guess it sort of brings us down to earth with our immediate expectations. And that is good. Keep up the good work.

Last edited by Thoke; 2014-06-17 at 19:19. Reason: descendence from dreams
 
Posts: 646 | Thanked: 1,124 times | Joined on Jul 2010 @ Espoo, Finland
#9
Instead of 123456 under the toggles can haz have QWERTY ?
 
kimmoli's Avatar
Posts: 562 | Thanked: 2,744 times | Joined on Dec 2013 @ Espoo, Finland
#10
And the software for this might be something like ShellEx, but with possibility assing a shell-script/command to each toggle;
  • switch 1 to on: Start bluetooth
  • switch 1 to off: Stop bluetooth
  • switch 2 to on: Silent
  • switch 2 to off: Voices on
  • switch .... and so on
__________________
TOH ideas, concepts and creations since 2013 toholed tohuart toheink Heebo tohIRi i2ctool tohmm LeTOH FMTOH
 

The Following User Says Thank You to kimmoli For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools

 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:05.