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2011-05-03
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Originally Posted by number41
Installed is one thing, being fully functional is another. If you have the kernel, getting MeeGo up and running is a fairly straightforward process. I got it booting to the console login prompt on my Nook Color fairly effortlessly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what really keeps MeeGo from being installed, say, in an Android device with unlocked bootloader (assuming it runs on ARM) is the lack of drivers for that specific device, correct?
Now, getting the GUI running takes a bit more effort. And if you want it to operate with full hardware acceleration, then you're usually stuck out in the cold due to the absolute disaster that is mobile graphics (no builds of the user space drivers for anything but Android, restrictive redistribution terms, etc.)
And that's just the most obvious pitfall, never mind any custom firmwares or other closed source drivers you may have the misfortune of needing.
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2011-05-11
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#43
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Meego has never been the future. The future is Maemo, the sooner Nokia realise that, the sooner they will have a great platform on the side of Symbian and WinMobile.
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2011-05-11
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#44
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Originally Posted by zeebra
Whats wrong with Meego? If youre talking about the Meego reference UI your right but thats a different story.
Meego has never been the future. The future is Maemo, the sooner Nokia realise that, the sooner they will have a great platform on the side of Symbian and WinMobile.
Going with Gtk+ in Maemo5 has no future.
Not many devs want to tweek with some C API today and Qt(Quick) is far better development framework for handset and Desktop apps. Thee tweeked C API in Maemo5 is really a mess.
Many devs has already started to use QtQuick instead so I dont see why we should not keep going with Meego.
Most of the core librarys in Maemo5 are the same or newer in Meego.
Last edited by mikecomputing; 2011-05-11 at 22:01.
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2011-05-12
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#45
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lol
Meego has not been released on a production consumer phone yet.
Until that happens it still hasnt been born.
Until this happens, just ignore the platform - why speculate over something that has not been properly released duh.
Meego has not been released on a production consumer phone yet.
Until that happens it still hasnt been born.
Until this happens, just ignore the platform - why speculate over something that has not been properly released duh.
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2011-05-12
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#46
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Originally Posted by zeebra
This statement screams "I don't understand what Maemo or MeeGo are, nor how operating systems work on a basic level."
Meego has never been the future. The future is Maemo, the sooner Nokia realise that, the sooner they will have a great platform on the side of Symbian and WinMobile.
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2011-05-12
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#47
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Originally Posted by wmarone
Maemo has the best user interface on the market. Desktop centric not app grid centric. Copying the mistakes of Apple and Android with Meego is just wrong.
This statement screams "I don't understand what Maemo or MeeGo are, nor how operating systems work on a basic level."
You may be right, but I do not think many people know operating system wise what Meego contains. Personally I will shy anything using intel processor on portables.
I am starting to get an understanding of what Maemo is operating system wise, but I am used to GNU not busybox so I would like a true Libc6 compatability.
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2011-05-12
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#48
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Mainly that is a worry. Also Intel on portable is a worry, we all know why Arm own the portable market and why Intel has nothing to compete with.
Whats wrong with Meego? If youre talking about the Meego reference UI your right but thats a different story.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
ok. I have no background to disagree with you here, rather many questions.
Going with Gtk+ in Maemo5 has no future.
I think Hildon is brilliant, this may sound stupid, but can Hildon easily move from gtk to qt? Or would it require a move to some lame copy ios and android type GUI?
QT is more popular and would be the natural base rather than GTK, but what is the status of QT at the moment, after Nokia outsourced it?
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
It seems to be the consensus. I didn't know it was such a tweaked mess tho. Can you show a brif example of equvilant functions code?
Not many devs want to tweek with some C API today and Qt(Quick) is far better development framework for handset and Desktop apps. Thee tweeked C API in Maemo5 is really a mess.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
I love KDE but does a truly great QT based GUI like Hildon exist for Mobile devices? I think Meego interface is not that.
Many devs has already started to use QtQuick instead so I dont see why we should not keep going with Meego.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
This is good.
Most of the core librarys in Maemo5 are the same or newer in Meego.
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2011-05-12
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#49
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I can see zeebra's points tbh. The maemo interface is not just an app louncher like the rest of the mobiles UI's out there, too bad the meego team didn't stick with it or try to recreate it.
Anyway, that is where the cordia guys come in (for zeebra: cordia is a meego hildon port) so there might be light on the end of tunnel after all, for people like me and zeebra that preffer the maemo UI.
Last edited by Daneel; 2011-05-12 at 10:13.
Anyway, that is where the cordia guys come in (for zeebra: cordia is a meego hildon port) so there might be light on the end of tunnel after all, for people like me and zeebra that preffer the maemo UI.
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2011-05-13
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The problem with Zeebra's points boil down to the fact that MeeGo is not the UI. You could always take Cordia and install it on MeeGo (better yet, give smoku some help), which will give you the Maemo 5 UI on MeeGo. Any hardware vendor could do the same thing.
Whether they will or not (or even if they'll use the reference GUI) is another question entirely and one for which the answer is not the responsibility of MeeGo.
That is what am referring to when I say "not understanding what Maemo or MeeGo are."
Whether they will or not (or even if they'll use the reference GUI) is another question entirely and one for which the answer is not the responsibility of MeeGo.
That is what am referring to when I say "not understanding what Maemo or MeeGo are."
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