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2011-05-17 , 15:18
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i used to work in the handset business and what one oem partner told me makes sense - buying a device is a lifestyle statement. what matters most is when you put it on the table and people go oooooh, aaaaaaah.

so, the average person's opinion is usually the one that drives decisions. afterall, the volume game is in the consumer market. make 1 dollar from 10 people instead of 10 dollars from 1 person and you will win mindshare and marketshare. lol.
 

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2011-05-17 , 15:24
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Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
It makes sense at that price tag?

How are you gonna make what you paid back ?

Thats the issue here and why ppl say it does not make sense - go read some details about the deal to get an understanding of why people say it does not make sense.
It depends on the nature of the gain they obtain. The gain can be financial, political, prestige, technological, etc.

Furthermore, it also depends on when they expect to capitalize their gain (convert to money eventually).

From my (or yours) point of view it looks like it does not make sense, but given the reputation these people have, it makes perfect sense for them.
 

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2011-05-17 , 20:25
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Originally Posted by uppercase View Post
Buying skype didn't make sense but it still happend. It doesn't have to make sense, it's shopping which is always good. The american passtime. Maybe steve's wife asked for a nokia, so he got her one.
Buying Skype makes sense no matter WHO you are! Too many consumers/users already there! Great proprietary technology for voice, which equals intellectual property, video calling tech... Why wouldn't ANY company NOT want the top video chatting app on the market encompassing every OS on the market?

If LTE voice doesn't pan out, MSFT could just make deals with carriers to share revenue and use Skype across the board. Already supports numbers, landline calls, etc. Did all the work for them...
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2011-05-17 , 20:43
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Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
Buying Skype makes sense no matter WHO you are! Too many consumers/users already there! Great proprietary technology for voice, which equals intellectual property, video calling tech... Why wouldn't ANY company NOT want the top video chatting app on the market encompassing every OS on the market?

If LTE voice doesn't pan out, MSFT could just make deals with carriers to share revenue and use Skype across the board. Already supports numbers, landline calls, etc. Did all the work for them...
I still don't see how they can get 8.5B worth of value out of Skype. Given Microsoft's past history in buying companies, the prognosis isn't good.
 

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2011-05-17 , 20:58
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Originally Posted by droll View Post
eldar is just gunning for attention. this will never happen. it was considered and shelved. that's why MS then decided to work with Nokia (in the announcement that caused hell on the net a couple of months ago).
Whether or not he's gunning for attention with this doesn't make it any more or less likely. I'm sure he was gunning for attention when he said that Nokia would be going Windows Phone 7 and before that when he reviewed the half-assed N900.. neither of which, in hindsight, were inaccurate. Can you provide more of an argument than "he's gunning for attention" and that they considered it but it was shelved? Near as I can tell, Nokia also tried to dismiss claims they would be considering Android or Windows Phone 7 and the evidence was supposed to be their incredible dedication to open-source and to their recently purchased QT. :P
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2011-05-17 , 20:58
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I dont think it will happen. He simply learned from somewhere about Ovi brand elimination and decided to make a wild guess about something bigger since what he said before turned out to be true.

This guy hates Nokia and never misses a chance to trash them in any way possible. So far I think he did this so that Nokia's stock goes down even more
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2011-05-17 , 21:10
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Originally Posted by HellFlyer View Post
This guy hates Nokia and never misses a chance to trash them in any way possible. So far I think he did this so that Nokia's stock goes down even more
Just because someone doesn't like Nokia doesn't necessarily answer the question of whether they're likely to be right or wrong.

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an update at engadget:

Update: As Reonhato pointed out in comments, Mark Squires, UK Communications Director for Nokia, has already issued an uncharacteristically pointed non-comment. "We typically don't comment on rumors. But we have to say that Eldar's rumors are getting obviously less accurate with every passing moment."

Lets hope that he says the truth...
I would also like to point out that he didn't say Eldar was wrong. The way he put it, it can neither be a truth nor a lie, because he targeted "accuracy"... so much for that hope of yours. If he wanted to comment on the rumor, he COULD have simply said the words: The rumors are untrue.
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2011-05-17 , 21:16
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Just because someone doesn't like Nokia doesn't necessarily answer the question of whether they're likely to be right or wrong.

True but spreading rumours about the company certainly helps Whether WP 7 was a good move is yet to be seen and as much as Elop is considered a spy or trojan horse I think he would prefer to be CEO of Nokia then the "president" of MS's mobile division.
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2011-05-17 , 21:19
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Originally Posted by HellFlyer View Post
True but spreading rumours about the company certainly helps Whether WP 7 was a good move is yet to be seen and as much as Elop is considered a spy or trojan horse I think he would prefer to be CEO of Nokia then the "president" of MS's mobile division.
Spreading rumors about the company in and of itself, again, neither makes him right or wrong. His ratio for correct rumors, however, does make him far more likely to be right than wrong on this but still doesn't confirm anything. The ambiguous response from Nokia to the rumor also doesn't make him any more right or wrong.
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Btw, OF COURSE microsoft WANTS to buy Nokia's mobile division. This would be a smart acquisition for anyone looking to make headway in mobile devices if the price was right. The question is, has Nokia seriously considered such an offer? Logic says no, but Nokia has not exactly acted in a logical manner in the past few years....
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