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2011-05-17 , 21:28
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Spreading rumors about the company in and of itself, again, neither makes him right or wrong. His ratio for correct rumors, however, does make him far more likely to be right than wrong on this but still doesn't confirm anything. The ambiguous response from Nokia to the rumor also doesn't make him any more right or wrong.
What?? Nokia responded? Where is it?
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I still don't see how they can get 8.5B worth of value out of Skype. Given Microsoft's past history in buying companies, the prognosis isn't good.
If MSFT can convince all the major carriers to not even invest in voice services anymore, and just adopt Skype as their official voice service (Remember, Skype is on ALL smart platforms, and a few featurephones as well, so plausible...), and it would have a large control in the industry. ESPECIALLY if MSFT gets paid for it. Would make sense, since all calls would be data related, and add to the carriers bottom line alot easier without need for alot of the dirty work. They could replace voice and SMS overnight! That's a big business in the US, and easily recoups the cash in short order. Not to mention getting apps to pay to add Skype into their services and apps. Am I the only one seeing the implications?
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#93
Originally Posted by HellFlyer View Post
What?? Nokia responded? Where is it?
Did you miss the whole conversation a page back? Not only is it all over the tech news, but Brock posted it to this thread...

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an update at engadget:

Update: As Reonhato pointed out in comments, Mark Squires, UK Communications Director for Nokia, has already issued an uncharacteristically pointed non-comment. "We typically don't comment on rumors. But we have to say that Eldar's rumors are getting obviously less accurate with every passing moment."

Lets hope that he says the truth...
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Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
If MSFT can convince all the major carriers to not even invest in voice services anymore, and just adopt Skype as their official voice service (Remember, Skype is on ALL smart platforms, and a few featurephones as well, so plausible...), and it would have a large control in the industry. ESPECIALLY if MSFT gets paid for it. Would make sense, since all calls would be data related, and add to the carriers bottom line alot easier without need for alot of the dirty work. They could replace voice and SMS overnight! That's a big business in the US, and easily recoups the cash in short order. Not to mention getting apps to pay to add Skype into their services and apps. Am I the only one seeing the implications?
The carriers have always been opposed to this in the past. They want to be seen as value-added services (i.e. voice+data+sms+video+music+etc) and have railed against the idea of being classified as a "dumb pipes" provider of just data. They capitalize a LOT more on add-in services than they do as "just" a data carrier (which they really are, in fact--but they don't want to be seen that way). They make a LOOOOOT more on data and texting separately than they do on just data, for example.
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It would be foolish for Microsoft to overlook the fact that mobile browsers now outnumber desktop; thus the move for Skype (the evaluation and what they paid doesn't make sense to me, but the acquisition makes sense, not the price) and Windows on ARM... the movement to mobile browsers makes sense for Microsoft.

So moving on Nokia is yet another step from MS being a dominant force (in terms of licensing only) on the desktop to being a bit player (at the moment) on the mobile front.

If that's the case, I'd have to say that collectively makes more sense than what Ballmer's been doing for the last decade.

Speculation? Yep. But I own stock in MSFT and NOK, so it would be a good thing.
 

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What really makes this rumour sound so loud is that it seems like it might be a logical move.
 
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What really makes this rumour sound so loud is that it seems like it might be a logical move.
I'm not sure that anybody has been debating how loud it is. o.o
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It's not good news to me; just the action of another big company I don't care about.
You might not care about them but your stuck with them like them or not and we are all in the same boat, what is important is what becomes of the merger.

They have produced by far the biggest selling OS's of all time and that is undisputable so bearing that in mind we have no choice but to wait and see what they do with Nokia.

I,like you am not too fond of them myself.
 
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The carriers have always been opposed to this in the past. They want to be seen as value-added services (i.e. voice+data+sms+video+music+etc) and have railed against the idea of being classified as a "dumb pipes" provider of just data. They capitalize a LOT more on add-in services than they do as "just" a data carrier (which they really are, in fact--but they don't want to be seen that way). They make a LOOOOOT more on data and texting separately than they do on just data, for example.
Quote. Vodafone italy allows not voip calls with your mobile dataplan. You need an extra dataplan for voip calls, which is too expensive if you make little use of voip.
 

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Quote. Vodafone italy allows not voip calls with your mobile dataplan. You need an extra dataplan for voip calls, which is too expensive if you make little use of voip.
This sort of treatment makes you feel like a cow being milked (by Vodafone d'Evil), waiting for the valiant prince(Steve Ball~mer of Micro$oft) riding on white horse (Nokia) swinging with the sword (Skype).

I predict very romantic ending.

Any alternative where we don't end up milked?

Seriously, If you think about it: it takes less effort to sell every day service (food, water, electricity, communication and data services), than to sell a cell phone or an operating system.

In a sense, in future we may end up with fusion of services (ecosystem), where one vendor provides telecommunication infrastructure, services and mobile devices. (one to rule them all)

Consider this "ecosystem" thing, or "cloud computing", it basically resolves to enclosed farm, where sheep, cows... get haircut, milked... The idea is to keep all of from running to another farm.

So at the end Vodafone will have a choice of adapting (merging), or becoming irrelevant at the end.

Also note that google is making a serious effort in providing global data transfer services themselves.

One obvious conclusion is you don't actually need a SIM card, so companies providing SIM cards related products will get nailed first. This fusion is a sort of a disruptive technology.
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