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2011-06-09 , 01:01
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I have noticed that many companies seen holding hands with Microsoft end up sleeping with the fishes.

Well, at one time Microsoft did push in some cash in a struggling company, ending a patent feud.

Not going to name the company, but it may just be that Microsoft now regrets both helping out, and later selling the share they got from it.

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2011-06-09 , 01:04
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cbeam you should quote...

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/06/08/vi...his-ecosystem/

He seems to be overly excited by moving from the Nokia identity to being another MS OEM.
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Originally Posted by GreatGonzo View Post
cbeam you should quote...

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/06/08/vi...his-ecosystem/

He seems to be overly excited by moving from the Nokia identity to being another MS OEM.
yeah, this is where Steven Elop, current CEO of Nokia stated that he wishes that HTC and Samsung will be successful with Windows Phone.

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Trivia question of the day:

Who said this in a keynote at Qualcomm’s Uplinq?

"The point though is that I want Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, to be successful with Windows Phone. I want G.S. Choi at Samsung to be successful with Windows Phone."

a) Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft
b) Larry Page, CEO of Google
c) Steve Jobs, Apple dude
d) Stephen Elop, CEO of Nokia
Well, if it was anyone else than a then we have a potential problem.

If it was d then all of Nokia, shareholders and employees have a huge problem. It´s then obvious the F/E-lop is working for Microsoft and not Nokia at all.
As all of you know, d) is the correct answer.
Nokia has a huge problem.
 

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2011-06-09 , 05:37
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#114
Rich Green leaving company.

Take a look at this:
http://www.taloussanomat.fi/informaa...on/20118123/12

use google translate.
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Originally Posted by cBeam View Post
yeah, this is where Steven Elop, current CEO of Nokia stated that he wishes that HTC and Samsung will be successful with Windows Phone.



As all of you know, d) is the correct answer.
Nokia has a huge problem.
Source please.
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2011-06-09 , 06:16
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GreatGonzo already posted a link to "My Nokia Blog".

Here is the direct link to the video of Elop's keynote address:
http://www.uplinq.com/sessions/keyno...bile-ecosystem

Elop's comments regarding HTC and Samsung being successful with Windows Phone start about 17'30 into the video.

Interesting talk, and I think he is a good speaker. I also think he sounds like a MS executive doing the best he can to promote Windows Phone. I have a hard time to believe he is a Nokia manager trying to do the best for Nokia.
 
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2011-06-09 , 06:21
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Not even CLOSE - well by magnitude anyway.

Look at the chart of ABK during the GFC.

Now THATs a crash.

Originally Posted by geneven View Post
To me, this seems like the biggest crash since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Well, maybe that's overstating it. Biggest crash since Enron?

I have noticed that many companies seen holding hands with Microsoft end up sleeping with the fishes.
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2011-06-09 , 06:52
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Poor Nokia.

The share price is in free fall, Nokia lost almost 50% value in the last 5 months. The handset business is essentially valued as 0. And even Microsoft is not interested in taking over Nokia as it would complicate their dealings with other handset makers.

When will it end?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7580X520110609
 
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Originally Posted by cBeam View Post
Poor Nokia.

The share price is in free fall, Nokia lost almost 50% value in the last 5 months. The handset business is essentially valued as 0. And even Microsoft is not interested in taking over Nokia as it would complicate their dealings with other handset makers.

When will it end?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7580X520110609
Here is the speculation (pardon me if I am not being original):
The Microsoft may take over the Nokia at any point now. The question arises: what are they waiting for?

The answer is that they are targeting the market with WF as an OEM product. This means they want to compete with Android/Apple, and for that they need Nokia, HTC, Samsung, LG and Chinese to start producing WF based devices.

If this is the case than buying Nokia officially is a bad move at the moment, because that will repulse the HW manufacturers.

My guess is that the Nokia is unofficially M$ already. This was not announced, but I believe that the shareholders of Nokia have
closed a deal before Elop came to Nokia.

The trade may not have been done publicly, but it would be worthy to investigate if major Nokia shareholders have somehow gained some stocks from certain other companies at that time.

The crucial message M$ is sending to HW manufacturers is:
We don't want to crush you, we want to crush Google/Android.

There is also the unspoken: We don't want to crush you (now), we will do it for later, once we crush Google/Android.
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I wish I could follow stocks in realtime.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:NOK

Nothing new since yesterday there.
I think CTO departure will further dent the stocks.
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