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#4541
Back on topic and speculating about announcement.
Nokian in Marketing just posted this on twitter.

"a BIG month it will be"
"the only counting u should be doing is counting down the days to the mid-end of the month... many a thing incoming."


https://twitter.com/#!/_Ant1_
 
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#4542
What does "mid-end of month" mean?
 

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#4543
is anyone from here attending Open Mobile Summit in London?

'Keynote: Thinking big: Creating a truly global mobile ecosystem
Stephen Elop, CEO, Nokia
'

clearly it will all WP blessing again but would be interesting if something falls out of his pocket that isnt WP.....

Edit: btw it starts in just under hour and a half

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#4544
Originally Posted by OVK View Post
What does "mid-end of month" mean?
21/06 will do like a mid-end to me
 

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#4545
Originally Posted by xxMurdakillxx View Post
So Zeh,
is the display in your opinion of first glimpse on par with the iPhone 4 screen?
I can't even tell the difference (in pixel) between the N900 and the iPhone 4!
 
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#4546
Here we go. The N9 consumer device screen... thats must be the technology they uses for it to "replace" the keyboard.

as zehjotkah posted on his blog (meetmeego.org) :

Mit “Glas” und “verglasung” meinen wir nicht unbedingt den Werkstoff Glas, der aus Sand hergestellt wird, sondern einfach nur die durchsichtige Schicht über dem Bildschirm. Diese ist bei dem Gerät sehr wichtig, da sie eine physikalische Tastatur relativ überflüssig macht. Mehr wird nicht verraten.

english:
With "glass" and "glazing" we mean not necessarily the material glass that is made of sand, but simply the transparent layer over the screen. This is very important for the device, because there's no need for a physical keyboard anymore.

Now check out this
http://research.nokia.com/biblio

Conference
Material Choices For Electro-tactile Haptic Interfaces
MRS Spring Meeting 2011
Paul Beecher; Zoran Radivojevic; Piers Andrew; Chris Bower; Samiul Haque; Darryl Cotton
Abstract: We present a robust, thin and optically transparent interface structure that can be overlaid unobtrusively on top of a display screen. This structure acts as an electrotactile system that directly delivers localized and visually correlated tactile information to the user’s skin, enabling graphic tactile feedback. The device structure operates at very low current level (< 10µA) and with potentials in the range of tens of volts, which is a significant improvement on current electrotactile paradigms. The proposed structure doubles as an input and output device in assisting the user interaction with a touch screen display. The technology is based on electrovibration, in which touch receptors in the skin can be deceived into perceiving texture when a fingertip is swiped across an insulating layer above a metal surface carrying an alternating potential. This effect is due to the varying electrostatic attraction between the conductor and the deeper, liquid-rich conducting layers of the skin – an effect which changes the perceived dynamic friction. Complex stimulation patterns, involving the mixing of multiple AC frequency components (10Hz – 500Hz) and the actuation of several electrodes simultaneously, may allow for the generation of an unprecedented range of “haptic illusions”. These may range from the emulation of real touch sensations, to completely new patterns of tactile feedback, and new ways of interacting with electronic devices. This solution also overcomes the need for the physical displacement of mechanical parts and is therefore several orders-of-magnitude more energetically efficient in providing real time feedback to the user. Our work tackles the expected evolution of mobile devices and displays towards flexible and compliant form factors. Our concept implementation is based on the use of novel nanomaterials and structures that are compatible with the requirements for these new technologies. Conductors that are simultaneously flexible, conductive and transparent have been investigated, ranging from wide-bandgap oxide materials to carbon nanostructures, e.g., carbon nanotube networks and graphene, and also include silver nanowire networks and thin metal grids. These conductors can all be deposited on flexible substrates, and uniformly coated with appropriate dielectric materials. Much focus has been on high-k amorphous oxide materials such as hafnia, but, barium titanate and parylene have also been used. The exploration of an extensive materials library necessitates use of a number different fabrication techniques including sputtering, vacuum deposition, and various solution methods and printing techniques. In addition, the inclusion of scratch resistant, hydrophobic and oleophobic materials on the top surface to combine electrical insulation, scratch resistance and stain/water/fingerprint repellence in a single finishing layer helps maintain and protect a pristine display surface.
 

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#4547
by the way: the device will have FWVGA resolution (854 x 480 pixels)

This make sense from what i saw ;-) , 6 x 4 Icons on the screen (a total of 24 icons), means it must have about twice as much pixels as a Symbian 3 device (640 x 360, 4 x 3 Icons, total of 12 )
 

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#4548
Originally Posted by nikrohr View Post
Here we go. The N9 consumer device screen... thats must be the technology they uses for it to "replace" the keyboard.

as zehjotkah posted on his blog (meetmeego.org) :

Mit “Glas” und “verglasung” meinen wir nicht unbedingt den Werkstoff Glas, der aus Sand hergestellt wird, sondern einfach nur die durchsichtige Schicht über dem Bildschirm. Diese ist bei dem Gerät sehr wichtig, da sie eine physikalische Tastatur relativ überflüssig macht. Mehr wird nicht verraten.

english:
With "glass" and "glazing" we mean not necessarily the material glass that is made of sand, but simply the transparent layer over the screen. This is very important for the device, because there's no need for a physical keyboard anymore.

Now check out this
http://research.nokia.com/biblio

Conference
Material Choices For Electro-tactile Haptic Interfaces
MRS Spring Meeting 2011
Paul Beecher; Zoran Radivojevic; Piers Andrew; Chris Bower; Samiul Haque; Darryl Cotton
Abstract: We present a robust, thin and optically transparent interface structure that can be overlaid unobtrusively on top of a display screen. This structure acts as an electrotactile system that directly delivers localized and visually correlated tactile information to the user’s skin, enabling graphic tactile feedback. The device structure operates at very low current level (< 10µA) and with potentials in the range of tens of volts, which is a significant improvement on current electrotactile paradigms. The proposed structure doubles as an input and output device in assisting the user interaction with a touch screen display. The technology is based on electrovibration, in which touch receptors in the skin can be deceived into perceiving texture when a fingertip is swiped across an insulating layer above a metal surface carrying an alternating potential. This effect is due to the varying electrostatic attraction between the conductor and the deeper, liquid-rich conducting layers of the skin – an effect which changes the perceived dynamic friction. Complex stimulation patterns, involving the mixing of multiple AC frequency components (10Hz – 500Hz) and the actuation of several electrodes simultaneously, may allow for the generation of an unprecedented range of “haptic illusions”. These may range from the emulation of real touch sensations, to completely new patterns of tactile feedback, and new ways of interacting with electronic devices. This solution also overcomes the need for the physical displacement of mechanical parts and is therefore several orders-of-magnitude more energetically efficient in providing real time feedback to the user. Our work tackles the expected evolution of mobile devices and displays towards flexible and compliant form factors. Our concept implementation is based on the use of novel nanomaterials and structures that are compatible with the requirements for these new technologies. Conductors that are simultaneously flexible, conductive and transparent have been investigated, ranging from wide-bandgap oxide materials to carbon nanostructures, e.g., carbon nanotube networks and graphene, and also include silver nanowire networks and thin metal grids. These conductors can all be deposited on flexible substrates, and uniformly coated with appropriate dielectric materials. Much focus has been on high-k amorphous oxide materials such as hafnia, but, barium titanate and parylene have also been used. The exploration of an extensive materials library necessitates use of a number different fabrication techniques including sputtering, vacuum deposition, and various solution methods and printing techniques. In addition, the inclusion of scratch resistant, hydrophobic and oleophobic materials on the top surface to combine electrical insulation, scratch resistance and stain/water/fingerprint repellence in a single finishing layer helps maintain and protect a pristine display surface.
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#4549
Originally Posted by shady View Post
wow, thats big news. sad sad sad day. linux tablets have died.
Green is "on holiday". If Elop resigns, Green can come back. I hope, that Elop will get fired soon. He had destroyed Nokia and shareholders value.
 
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#4550
Originally Posted by zehjotkah View Post
another patent:
nice touchscreen technologies... #justsayin



edit:
thank you all for your answers. Really helpful insight.
Is there many new patents in the phone?
 
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