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OK I have recently joined the broken USB club () . I understand your point about the circuit protection, however I would like you to answer these 2 questions for me.
1. If I developed a circuit board which had the protection your talking about to use these easily accessible points as my new USB connection. Can you detail the entire circuit from the USB cable back to the test points.
2. If there are "easier ways to fix those pads" please detail how you would do it for someone who may not have access to the proper tools, or the small circuit expertise to attempt such a fix.
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$random-cable -> connector -> protection -> N900-internal
your-protection -> $random-cable -> your-connection-to-testpoints -> N900-internal
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The protection is to isolate $random_cable introduced mess from N900, as
there's little use in doing sth likeCode:$random-cable -> connector -> protection -> N900-internal
Also without proper tools and experience/expertise you'll fail on that approach as much or even worse as/than you'll fail on the suggested proper fix of USB receptacle, as shown in the thread linked to in a former post of this threadCode:your-protection -> $random-cable -> your-connection-to-testpoints -> N900-internal
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The protection is to isolate $random_cable introduced mess from N900, as
there's little use in doing sth likeCode:$random-cable -> connector -> protection -> N900-internal
Also without proper tools and experience/expertise you'll fail on that approach as much or even worse as/than you'll fail on the suggested proper fix of USB receptacle, as shown in the thread linked to in a former post of this threadCode:your-protection -> $random-cable -> your-connection-to-testpoints -> N900-internal
For a general note and advice regarding these testpoints: they are fine for using a properly designed service jig mount or sort of cradle to contact them. They are also ok for an emergency recovery setup, given you make sure there are no wrong signals, static charge, wrong voltages and/or polarities and so on. Most important: Alsways make sure to first connect the GND of your auxiliary contraption and the N900 GND, to avoid static discharge smoking up N900's chips
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so if i understand this correctly...the safest way to provide the +5V is from the original usb pad since it routes it through the circuit protection..BUT we can also rebuild the circuit protection but then we deal with the issue of the connection from the circuit protection to pad..or we can just connect directly to the pad and suffer massive consequences if something goes wrong
bottom line: the only viable way to provide power is through the original route?
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Exactly. And same applies for D+/- to a slightly reduced degree
Though, as mentioned, a properly designed connector jig similar to the one 2 posts above with a few improvements, that also cares about ESD and protection at large, will work as that's what the pads are made for. Soldering some wires there and routing them to a USB receptacle won't pan out in the long term.
[edit] Thanks to suggestion 2 posts above, and of course thanks to those nice fellows donating to h-e-n, I ordered some of those connectors, let's see what we can do with some modding. Just in case you feel like donating as well, here's some Donate button
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Hello. I tried to solder the usb port how the other tutorial described but the data pins chip's 2 connectors broke as well. Can I use the two mentioned pads for data lines and still use the old +5v and GND. If I understood well I will be keeping the protection for the 5v but loosing only the esd protection.
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