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2011-07-05 , 06:26
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Originally Posted by Kozzi View Post
and having HDMI doesn't mean you need to take the miniHDMI-HDMI adapter, HDMI cable and having an LCD TV with free slot ? With your logic I think the current TV-out is better, you have to carry only 1 adapter and almost any TV on earth have composite TV-in.
No, I said what I meant. I have a Motorola Atrix, it came with this cable that goes from the miniHDMI port to HDMI in one cable.

Really convenient. Whereas I don't always have access (personally) to composite video (for presentations for instance)
 

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2011-07-05 , 07:17
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Originally Posted by Kozzi View Post
and having HDMI doesn't mean you need to take the miniHDMI-HDMI adapter, HDMI cable and having an LCD TV with free slot ? With your logic I think the current TV-out is better, you have to carry only 1 adapter and almost any TV on earth have composite TV-in.
You seem quite stuck inside a box, unable to think of use cases for others.

Here's a use case from a business travelers PoV.

I carry a laptop around with me, with all the spare batteries, accessories and cables, it is a pretty heavy package.

if the N9 had an HDMI out, I could in most cases replace the laptop fully with the N9, and instead carry with me N9, mHDMI <> HDMI cable, foldable bluetooth keyboard & mouse.

This would save me up to 5KG of carry on luggage!

All the work data that I need with me can either be on device, or a VPN connection away on corporate LAN.
RDP works just fine for remote connecting to my desktop PC
Presentation? Just plug it into the projector.

For entertainment, I can then playback music / movies / series / whatever to the TV, and not be stuck with what they are offering on the hotel PayTV

for me, the convenience factor would be insane.

A composite or svideo out will just not cut it, as the picture quality is too poor to work with, this is what makes me unable to do the above with N900
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2011-07-05 , 07:25
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@keflex I think the issue here is that Elop's reality is that windows is safe and stable and the way to go and any pretense he has made to justify switching over to it is just that, a pretense.
The proof is that we have the N9 and they could be making 3 more harmattan handsets right now then in 2 years they just transfer their proprietary ux to full meego.
 
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2011-07-05 , 07:37
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Originally Posted by keflex View Post
Basically, you're all stupid.
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Something all the FOSStards around here seem to continually forget is that Nokia is a company. Companies - believe it or not - exist to make profit.
Someone should tell their board that.

Companies also traditionally have better resources for deciding what will make them the most profit than neckbeards living in their parent's basements.
You'd think, but let's see the Q2 results on the 21st.
 

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Originally Posted by aironeous View Post
@keflex I think the issue here is that Elop's reality is that windows is safe and stable and the way to go and any pretense he has made to justify switching over to it is just that, a pretense.
The proof is that we have the N9 and they could be making 3 more harmattan handsets right now then in 2 years they just transfer their proprietary ux to full meego.
The reality is that "Microsoft" or "Windows" anything is infinitely more sellable than a "MeeGo" this or a "Harmattan" that...

....and that our priorities and values are wholly different than a regular Joe's, when we assess smartphones/pocketable computers.

We are not a big enough market to sustain Nokia.
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2011-07-05 , 07:57
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A bunch of Nokia N9 photo samples at flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nominaa...n/photostream/
 

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2011-07-05 , 08:24
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
The reality is that "Microsoft" or "Windows" anything is infinitely more sellable than a "MeeGo" this or a "Harmattan" that...

....and that our priorities and values are wholly different than a regular Joe's, when we assess smartphones/pocketable computers.

We are not a big enough market to sustain Nokia.
but windows phone 7 doesnt sell, it have poor sales.
 
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
The reality is that "Microsoft" or "Windows" anything is infinitely more sellable than a "MeeGo" this or a "Harmattan" that...

....and that our priorities and values are wholly different than a regular Joe's, when we assess smartphones/pocketable computers.

We are not a big enough market to sustain Nokia.
Frankly speaking I think that's the matter of proper marketing activities. Just look at the iphone case. Or droids. And general perception. Regular Joe visits engadged, arstechnica before buy and when he sees that it is innovative product then goes for it...
 
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2011-07-05 , 08:42
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Originally Posted by mooglez View Post
You seem quite stuck inside a box, unable to think of use cases for others.

[...]

if the N9 had an HDMI out, I could in most cases replace the laptop fully with the N9, and instead carry with me N9, mHDMI <> HDMI cable, foldable bluetooth keyboard & mouse.

This would save me up to 5KG of carry on luggage!

[...]

A composite or svideo out will just not cut it, as the picture quality is too poor to work with, this is what makes me unable to do the above with N900
My reply was toward gerbick about convenience of having to do extra purchasing to take advance of the method posted by scapegoat845 . Why exactly do you say that I'm "stuck inside a box", if HDMI is something important to you and can't live without then sorry the N9 doesn't have HDMI, but here we can discuss about how else we can use other functions to replace it. For instance my usage can be replaced using DLNA (betalabs Play To, which scans automatically for devices and one tap to play, of course if they release it for N9) or microUSB-USB to LCD TV/PC/Media Player (Boxee box, popcorn...).

ps. I'm an average user, I don't use my phone to replace my laptop, each has it own purpose.
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