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2011-07-21 , 12:23
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Originally Posted by meego99 View Post
Profit is a profit, no matter how you make it. They are no Apple for sure, but given the pre-Elop line up of Symbian ******s, this is better than expected. I would give Elop 2 more years before he is judged on his actions. The fruits of his decision will not be evident until 2 years from now.
Well at least someone has got a few brain cells not hating Elop on here .
 
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2011-07-21 , 12:32
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
... apple gives back to opensource (Webkit is one). What has Microsoft give the community?
361 changes to Linux 3.0 by Microsoft.
 

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2011-07-21 , 12:43
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Nokia is far too big an important and probably the most established mobile hardware manufacturer on this planet at the moment so there is not a chance in hell Microsoft will allow them to sink.

Elop is a VERY smart guy or he simply would never have got the post he did !.
 
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2011-07-21 , 12:44
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#554
Originally Posted by meego99 View Post
Profit is a profit, no matter how you make it. They are no Apple for sure, but given the pre-Elop line up of Symbian ******s, this is better than expected. I would give Elop 2 more years before he is judged on his actions. The fruits of his decision will not be evident until 2 years from now.
That pre-Elop line up of whatever those asterisks mean sold more than all Apple and Samsung handsets combined. And given that that line of whatever those asterisks mean has been abandoned, there will be no Nokia 2 years from now.
 
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2011-07-21 , 12:45
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Stock up over 3%

Results are lot bad, but lot better than expected.
If I read the articles about the results from Finnish media correctly, the only reason the results were positive was a one-time patent royalty payment of 430m€, probably from Apple.

If after this the profit was 391m€, you can do the math. Last year, without patent payments, profit was 660m€.
 

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2011-07-21 , 12:51
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Originally Posted by bergie View Post
If I read the articles about the results from Finnish media correctly, the only reason the results were positive was a one-time patent royalty payment of 430m€, probably from Apple.
it's one-time payment and royalties. so it will still pay to some extent in next Q if the payment is indeed from Apple.
 
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2011-07-21 , 12:55
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/21/as-...e-killer-blow/

ouch, man apple saved nokia.
this is why u should never feed the patent trolls :P. though i guess a fellow patent troll knows when time to feed.

smartphone grow its comming from used to be dumphone users.

not many converts, so what ever nokia losing now to iOS androd, blackberry and BADA (YES BADA is outselling wp7) , its not coming back ever.

nokia probably in talks with the devil because wp7 have to be bigger than jesusphone.
 
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2011-07-21 , 12:59
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Originally Posted by erendorn View Post
it's one-time payment and royalties. so it will still pay to some extent in next Q if the payment is indeed from Apple.
According to one "analyst", those payments could be about €50 million per quarter from now on. Nothing to write home about.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia...tlement-2011-6
 

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2011-07-21 , 13:05
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Originally Posted by kevloral View Post
According to one "analyst", those payments could be about €50 million per quarter from now on. Nothing to write home about.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia...tlement-2011-6
i was just reading that..
all analitics tech blogs are making echo of nokia big failure.

and could have been worse.
 
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2011-07-21 , 14:08
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Nokia is far too big an important and probably the most established mobile hardware manufacturer on this planet at the moment so there is not a chance in hell Microsoft will allow them to sink.
So is Microsoft going to buy Nokia or just buy the phones that Nokia can't sell?

If first one, will Microsoft then buy all the phones it makes in order to stop sales of Nokia branded phones from sinking?
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