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2011-08-03
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If the rules stated only Swedish residence are allowed to enter, or if they had said all future posts, tweets, blogs will have to be Swedish then it is fairly obvious I would not have entered.
As bad as the Google translate is, I am fairly confident that there was no mention of that in the original rules and the only requirement I could see was one had to be over 18.
They could have had a simple country check on the entry form to eliminate such a problem.
As for thousands of non Swedish entrants... Take a look at the top list, there are not even 10 Swedish people in the top list. Unless of course the top 10 list on the site is only a reflection of the real Top 10 list.
Fair enough they changed the rules, be it after the competition went live.
As bad as the Google translate is, I am fairly confident that there was no mention of that in the original rules and the only requirement I could see was one had to be over 18.
They could have had a simple country check on the entry form to eliminate such a problem.
As for thousands of non Swedish entrants... Take a look at the top list, there are not even 10 Swedish people in the top list. Unless of course the top 10 list on the site is only a reflection of the real Top 10 list.
Fair enough they changed the rules, be it after the competition went live.
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by MyNokiaN900
are you serious? you didn't have alarm bells ringing when you had to use translator even for finding out which button to press when you want to apply for test pilot?
If the rules stated only Swedish residence are allowed to enter, or if they had said all future posts, tweets, blogs will have to be Swedish then it is fairly obvious I would not have entered.
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2011-08-03
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Oh cry me a river running into the Atlantic. Stop trying to victimise yourself. All you lost was introductory text of few dozen words and your Facebook friends clicking few buttons. And you knew from the start that it wasn’t a competition meant for you.
It’s clearly arranged by Nokia Sweden, in Swedish and the point is to get Swedish speaking people to blog about N9 in Swedish for the Swedish market. You knew this at the latest when after you Google translated the rules.
But here’s the homepage for Konsumentverket, just in case you want to file a complaint against Nokia. I’m not sure if they take complaints from overseas, but Swedish consumer law is also on the site. Just Google translate that as well.
It’s clearly arranged by Nokia Sweden, in Swedish and the point is to get Swedish speaking people to blog about N9 in Swedish for the Swedish market. You knew this at the latest when after you Google translated the rules.
But here’s the homepage for Konsumentverket, just in case you want to file a complaint against Nokia. I’m not sure if they take complaints from overseas, but Swedish consumer law is also on the site. Just Google translate that as well.
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Yes, when I got home and went onto the site, and hit the translate button, of course there was a thought that it was meant for Swedish participants only, and there were quite a few people online Twitter asking the same question, but then isn't that what the rules of a competition are for? Clarification. They could have had a disclaimer, but they didn't.
are you serious? you didn't have alarm bells ringing when you had to use translator even for finding out which button to press when you want to apply for test pilot?
I accept they changed the rules and good luck to everyone in Sweden who has entered. I would be happy to recommend anyone.
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by MyNokiaN900
in scandinavia people don't need disclaimers to coffee mugs "warning: the content might burn if you spill it to your nuts, dip your finger in it, or it will hurt like hell if you try to shove the mug up to your ***, ...."
isn't that what the rules of a competition are for? Clarification. They could have had a disclaimer, but they didn't.
the rules are the legal part, the more important part is the point of the competition which was what? if you needed a translation software even to apply into the competition, how can you fill the point of the competition?
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Spoken like a true Scandinavian!
in scandinavia people don't need disclaimers to coffee mugs "warning: the content might burn if you spill it to your nuts, dip your finger in it, or it will hurt like hell if you try to shove the mug up to your as$, ...."
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by ossipena
What the hell?? How else am I supposed to wake up with hot coffee then?? You don't actually expect me to actually DRINK this muddy bean-water, do you??
in scandinavia people don't need disclaimers to coffee mugs "warning: the content might burn if you spill it to your nuts, dip your finger in it, or it will hurt like hell if you try to shove the mug up to your ***, ...."
Originally Posted by ossipena
Maybe he wanted to get a live speech synthesizer to translate it for him... maybe drive around in his computer-chair like Stephen Hawking. Hell... even I wanna do that, now that I've thought it out!
the rules are the legal part, the more important part is the point of the competition which was what? if you needed a translation software even to apply into the competition, how can you fill the point of the competition?
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2011-08-03
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Originally Posted by vi_
actually I am not true scandinavian
Spoken like a true Scandinavian!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia
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2011-08-03
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Heck - if that was the issue, Nokia / MeeGo need all the help they can get. So, send me what you need documented and I will deliver it in Norwegian Neil.
BUT one problem Nokia has is handling media and "besserwissers on the loose" (such as "Strand Consulting Aps"). Instead of arguing that the rules are "unfair" you should just ask Nokia marketing to review your site and activity here, on Facebook and other places. Then bluntly ask them if you may review the N9 and compare this with N900 and with the help of friends on the net, try to port some of the Maemo and NITroid. You need to commit to review beyond Qt, and beyond developing in Qt.
You should also aproach the Nokia/UK marketing team. Nokia cannot expect that everyone will use Qt for applications development, but emulators are thhe Linux way - so why not emulate an iPhone?
BUT one problem Nokia has is handling media and "besserwissers on the loose" (such as "Strand Consulting Aps"). Instead of arguing that the rules are "unfair" you should just ask Nokia marketing to review your site and activity here, on Facebook and other places. Then bluntly ask them if you may review the N9 and compare this with N900 and with the help of friends on the net, try to port some of the Maemo and NITroid. You need to commit to review beyond Qt, and beyond developing in Qt.
You should also aproach the Nokia/UK marketing team. Nokia cannot expect that everyone will use Qt for applications development, but emulators are thhe Linux way - so why not emulate an iPhone?
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