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#31
This should get into extra-devel repository !
 

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Originally Posted by demolition View Post
You're probably right about the speed - even opening html pages in MyDocs is quite slow. I just thought of it because it would be very quick and easy to get something going. Seems like progress is being made anyway.

Offtopic:
About the icons, I think there might be a need for an on device icon maker. I can probably make the bulk of it myself. Nothing fancy! To be useful it would need to be reasonably automatic so I was wondering - is an application's programme-menu icon stored anywhere standard? Either absolute or relative to the programme's binary?
Yeah, i have played with browser as filemanager since win95 and never liked it, the only system i did like was MS-DOS with a browser i did some participation in developing called Arachne. I even made a Midnight commander clone in html for that

The iconsystem seems to be part of the GTK+ so it should be possible to retrieve them from the os-theme itself, but the code i found and mentioned earlier did unfourtunately not work, so maybe someone else has a codesnippet that could be pasted into the code? but it is Sethkhas decision on what to do, so...
 

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#33
The icons are in /usr/share/icons. Some icon themes don't have MIME icons and if they have, they are 48x48 or 64x64 (small and ugly).
I had some code, which compiled without error, but didn't work. So I came up with another solution. I doubt that a true MIME icon solution would be much faster. I would replace it if it would be needed, but would it be better?
More interesting would be to add more MIME types (open sh, py with eg TXPad). I think this should be done somewhere in the system.

@demolition
I don't know much about icons, I wouldn't edit icons on device, but I don't like messing with icons anyway

@archl
I plan to do so, but there's some work to do before that
 

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Originally Posted by sethkha View Post
The icons are in /usr/share/icons. Some icon themes don't have MIME icons and if they have, they are 48x48 or 64x64 (small and ugly).
I had some code, which compiled without error, but didn't work. So I came up with another solution. I doubt that a true MIME icon solution would be much faster. I would replace it if it would be needed, but would it be better?
More interesting would be to add more MIME types (open sh, py with eg TXPad). I think this should be done somewhere in the system.
There is a tool called DBus-switchboard that takes care of the open of mimetypes, so it is in the system already

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I don't know much about icons, I wouldn't edit icons on device, but I don't like messing with icons anyway
I remeber a program for win3.11 where you got a grid of large pixels where you could paint your own icons ,with a small preview in the real size on the side. That layout would make it quite easy to do icons on the device for those who are interested in painting
 

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There is a tool called DBus-switchboard that takes care of the open of mimetypes, so it is in the system already
So someone should have a look at it, shouldn't be too hard.

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I remeber a program for win3.11 where you got a grid of large pixels where you could paint your own icons ...
I remember that! Could even be I still have it somewhere.

Updated first page. Yellownotes is no longer needed/can be used again.
Should be faster now as I removed some runtime information prints
 

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Originally Posted by electroaudio View Post
There is a tool called DBus-switchboard that takes care of the open of mimetypes, so it is in the system already

I remeber a program for win3.11 where you got a grid of large pixels where you could paint your own icons ,with a small preview in the real size on the side. That layout would make it quite easy to do icons on the device for those who are interested in painting
Yeah in visual studio there's something very similar. Pain to use without a predefined image as well. I was thinking of something much simpler: Go through list of programme icons and for each (example suggestion only)
- get programme icon
- reduce to 60%
- place on white rectangle
-> -> initial file icon
Then when associating with each file-type
- perhaps modify colour / hue / brightness etc.
- on white space of rectangle write extension name.

This is only a very rough suggestion but think it gives an idea of what I was thinking of. Obviously, the programme icon's not always ideal as a file icon and some software can open lots of different types. Anyway...
 

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Originally Posted by sethkha View Post
So someone should have a look at it, shouldn't be too hard.
Do you mean a dual run/edit function?

Updated first page. Yellownotes is no longer needed/can be used again.
Should be faster now as I removed some runtime information prints
It works very well However, i am starting to lean against adding a homebutton anyway

Then i also have an idea to hide the config-mode problem from joe user when it hits the repos, maybe the scrollbar should be very thin and then a page up and page down button could be used instead, probably occupying the space used by the scrollbar now. That would most likely also give room for some more buttons between them

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Originally Posted by demolition View Post
Yeah in visual studio there's something very similar. Pain to use without a predefined image as well. I was thinking of something much simpler: Go through list of programme icons and for each (example suggestion only)
- get programme icon
- reduce to 60%
- place on white rectangle
-> -> initial file icon
Then when associating with each file-type
- perhaps modify colour / hue / brightness etc.
- on white space of rectangle write extension name.

This is only a very rough suggestion but think it gives an idea of what I was thinking of. Obviously, the programme icon's not always ideal as a file icon and some software can open lots of different types. Anyway...
Seems like you are thinking of some automated process?

But the mimetype icons are somehow accessible, but a simple loadnpaste function of any picturefile would work just as well.
However this could be a useable program by itself for those who like to spend hours on a single painting, so maybe you could post it as a suggestion in Design?
 

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Originally Posted by electroaudio View Post
Do you mean a dual run/edit function?
I mean which file is open with which application is written somewhere in the system, I can't add it in deskypplet. I could, if the devs of eg TXPad,PyGTKEditor... added the possibility for that (not sure about this though)

Originally Posted by electroaudio View Post
i am starting to lean against adding a homebutton anyway
Does that mean, you want a button? I can add it, it's not much work and easy to remove. Will take a while for favorites list anyway.

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Then i also have an idea to hide the config-mode problem from joe user when it hits the repos, maybe the scrollbar should be very thin and then a page up and page down button could be used instead, probably occupying the space used by the scrollbar now. That would most likely also give room for some more buttons between them
This would mean a lot of work (if there is no built in sollution for scrolled windows). It's easier for the user to get over it.
 

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Originally Posted by sethkha View Post
I mean which file is open with which application is written somewhere in the system, I can't add it in deskypplet. I could, if the devs of eg TXPad,PyGTKEditor... added the possibility for that (not sure about this though)
hmm, for me it seems like everything is as usual (every file is opened with its program as expected) so how do you do it now?

Does that mean, you want a button? I can add it, it's not much work and easy to remove. Will take a while for favorites list anyway.
If it is fast and easy so yes please i get lost quite quickly in the filesystem right now
But i think you could keep it too, as the first and most important bookmark, since it already is an editable link in the configfile.

This would mean a lot of work (if there is no built in sollution for scrolled windows). It's easier for the user to get over it.
Yeah, let them get over it i use it daily and dont have any problems with it
 
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