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Originally Posted by Texrat
Stop drinking the cool-aid.
Since that opinion flies in the face of so many legal and business moves, especially the past several years, can you explain why you say that?
In the modern world there is no such thing as a 'patent'. 'Patents' are meaningless scrip that's used as ammunition for determining which corporate penis is larger in court.
For 16 billion you can buy an awful amount of lawyers, enough to not care about 'patents' whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
Wait. If there is no such thing as a patent, then what is Microsoft using to get royalties from HTC and the others (Samsung, et al)? If not patents, then what? It may be argued that the patent infringements are bogus - Google is saying that right now, actually - but patents are indeed real. Some are enforceable, some are straight written bullcrap that needs to be revoked or ignored.
Stop drinking the cool-aid.
In the modern world there is no such thing as a 'patent'. 'Patents' are meaningless scrip that's used as ammunition for determining which corporate penis is larger in court.
For 16 billion you can buy an awful amount of lawyers, enough to not care about 'patents' whatsoever.
Please be specific. Because I'm genuinely curious.
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2011-08-17
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#134
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
They will probably diversify between Android and WP7. Google will probably do the vanilla experience, and hopefully push Samsung and HTC to do a better job with their custom ROMs.
And of course they will. That's the whole point of buying Motorola.
Now Google can compete with Apple on the profit margin and marketing fronts, while still locking in third-party manufacturers like HTC and Samsung into their ridiculous Android 'ecosystem'.
Obviously Google thinks they have HTC and Samsung by the balls, in that HTC and Samsung are now entrenched, trapped with Android.
I wonder what HTC's and Samsung's next move will be. (Bada?) They must be furiously thinking right now.
Originally Posted by tkatchev
Yeah and how many batches of 16 billion dollars to buy lawyers that Apple and Microsoft have? I'm willing to bet it's still cheaper to buy patents than to hire a lawyer and still risk losing (or getting a bad long term deal).
Stop drinking the cool-aid.
In the modern world there is no such thing as a 'patent'. 'Patents' are meaningless scrip that's used as ammunition for determining which corporate penis is larger in court.
For 16 billion you can buy an awful amount of lawyers, enough to not care about 'patents' whatsoever.
Though I still think our patent/copyright system is a mess that needs heavy reform.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2011-08-17
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#135
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Well actually MS it's using its size and bullying HTC as there are no patent claims just the threat that they might do so in the future if HTC does not pay royalties to them. So it's more like pimping LOL
Wait. If there is no such thing as a patent, then what is Microsoft using to get royalties from HTC and the others (Samsung, et al)? If not patents, then what? It may be argued that the patent infringements are bogus - Google is saying that right now, actually - but patents are indeed real. Some are enforceable, some are straight written bullcrap that needs to be revoked or ignored.
Please be specific. Because I'm genuinely curious.
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2011-08-17
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#136
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
You mean if they spin off a part of their operation into a separate entity/corporation?
What happens to your stock in a company if they split like that? E.g. If I bought Motorola stock and then they split.
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2011-08-17
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
But...wow. So there is no spoon after all. This revelation changes everything! It could even invalidate one clause of Article 1, Section 8 of the US constitution! It renders the USPTO useless! Not to mention hordes of lawyers. Time to invoke the William Shakespeare Protocol!
Stop drinking the cool-aid.
In the modern world there is no such thing as a 'patent'. 'Patents' are meaningless scrip that's used as ammunition for determining which corporate penis is larger in court.
For 16 billion you can buy an awful amount of lawyers, enough to not care about 'patents' whatsoever.
And best of all, it vindicates everyone who thought Amazon got a huge gift with that one-click purchase patent nonsense!
Thank you. Truly, thank you for opening my eyes and hopefully the eyes of billions. But man-- we've got a LOT of legalism to unwind now! Time's a-wasting!
And I hate KoolAde.
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2011-08-17
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Originally Posted by Zoxir
Seriously, big difference between "no applicable patents in this case" versus "no such thing as a patent (
Well actually MS it's using its size and bullying HTC as there are no patent claims just the threat that they might do so in the future if HTC does not pay royalties to them. So it's more like pimping LOL
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2011-08-17
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
You do know that a penis, corporate or otherwise, can still do a lot of damage to someone's behinds, right?
Stop drinking the cool-aid.
In the modern world there is no such thing as a 'patent'. 'Patents' are meaningless scrip that's used as ammunition for determining which corporate penis is larger in court.
(...)
Case in point: Take Nokia, for example... One of the only reasons they're still afloat is because they managed to succesfully sue Apple for a large ammount of cash, due to patent infringement, IIRC.
Now, if this corporate phallic protuberance, while big enough to basically play the role of a functional third leg (since the other two were lost in the platform's fire) and keep a nearly dead company still on its, errr, glans, still ammounts to you to no more than a negligible form of business peacock tail, I should say you surely have an unique take on how big big is.
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2011-08-17
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
Android has never really been an open system. That is, it's open except for the parts that aren't which is quite a bit. What's changed now?
Wrong on all counts.
In the end, Android is not an open system anymore. Of course that is bad for HTC and Samsung.
Also, 'patents' are a ridiculous red herring for keeping clueless people confused. Patents have nothing to do with anything.
If you think patents are ridiculous go ahead and violate some and see how ridiculous your legal fees are.
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