I've heard several comments about the n810 being slow, and I'm curious what that might mean. So, I'm asking that people try a few sites and report there results. Specifically, I'm interested in how many seconds (assuming a good wifi connection) it takes from typing in a URL to the page being fully loaded for:

1) This forum
2) The Wikipedia entry on the n810 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810)
3) The Amazon page selling the n810.
4) Typing Nokia n810 into Google and seeing the results.

Thanks muchly!

I have a limited amount of time to test for people, but for my n800 running os2008, it took me 10 seconds to bring up the Wikipedia article after clicking on the link you provided.

Wikipedia and Google are fast - close to desktop rates. Amazon isn't - and ITT is certainly stretching the limits, but then it is a page with an almost infinite number of elements to be rendered.

In my opinion we see several issues there:

1. The Microb engine applies rendering as it goes, so that complex pages with multiple nested containers embedded imagery get rerendered many times. Opera was better there, as it showed a mostly plain rendition in process, applying the bulk of styles only after all elements were loaded.

2. The tight WiFi power management increases latency on Maemo compared to desktop/laptop OSes - whenever the latencies incurred in page rendering slow the loading of consecutive embedded elements beyond breaks of more than 200ms, the WiFi will get sent asleep, so that it has to be awakened for fetching each image, adding further delays to each request.

3. Bad page design - that ITT as a site catering for a handheld device renders worse than the arguably awful online-version-of-a-Walmart-flyer Amazon implies that the ITT stylesheet and layout urgently need tuning. Even more so as the alternative "mobile" versions are by now so out of date that they can hardly be used to access the site any more. Unfortunately MicroB can't make use of user style sheets so far, so that has to be fixed by the site operators.