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This may sound silly or simple. But it's important.

I'm looking at sharing a document between the 770 and my PC. I have to alter it in both locations. When I create the document in "Notes" and save via HTML, I can use an HTML editor on the PC. However, saving it on the PC will write HTML that "Notes" does not parse correctly.

Does anyone have a good way to share documents? Is the HTML for "Notes" an easy subset of normal HTML?

Thanks!

-F
 
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Have you tried Abiword? I use it to convert Word documents to be able to edit on the 770.
 
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Originally Posted by frethop
This may sound silly or simple. But it's important.

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Is the HTML for "Notes" an easy subset of normal HTML?
No: the HTML produced by "Notes" is ugly. So ugly I can't even image MS Frontpage producing something even worse.

If you look at the output from an Xterm with either vi or more, you will see that instead of using spaces it uses the HTML equivalent <&nsp;>, & instead of a carriage return it also uses the HTML equivalent -- <cr> Or am I the ony one who can see how this would cause any conventionally-written program to eventually choke on what was -- in effect -- one unbelievably long word? I believe it is the assumption when writing text-parsing programs that there are actual spaces & carriage returns in a slab of text the program will process, & to allocate chunks of memory based on where they appear.

Remember all of the ranting Mike Cane did in his blog on using the Nokia a month ago, just before he left? One of his biggest headaches was with Notes crashing -- which was doubtlessly due to this brain-dead implimentation of HTML.

I stumbled across this monstrosity about a month ago, but haven't shared this discovery because I've been busy trying to figure out who is responsible for this bug -- is "Notes" a Nokia-written program, or is it Opera masquerading under another name? (If it is the later, then I would assume there is an option that can be set or changed in the opera.ini file.) Until someone comes up with a work-around -- or Nokia fixes this -- don't save your text files created with Notes in HTML format.

Geoff

Last edited by llywrch; 2006-03-08 at 20:08. Reason: typo
 
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i'm working on a "maemopad+" utility, the notes will have a tree structure and you will be able to save sketches with it also. i added some details here, but it's still in early beta. (and i hate gnome-vfs)

edit: an early beta of the maemopad+ is posted on the apps section of the forum. (it's also on ApplicationCatalogWip)

Last edited by disq; 2006-03-09 at 17:13.
 
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I raised a bug about the broken behaviour of Notes' HTML. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have had any movement on it...
 
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Originally Posted by aflegg
I raised a bug about the broken behaviour of Notes' HTML. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have had any movement on it...
And you filed the bug 'way back in November 2005. That doesn't look very good on Nokia's behalf. At the very least, I'd hope someone there would respond "it's in this application; we don't have the time to fix it, but you have the source so ..."

I'm still trying to figure out whether Notes is part of Opera, is a stand-alone proprietary Nokia program -- or an GPL'd program with another name & some code changes. If we knew that, then one of us could fix it -- & not just complain.

Geoff
 
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Of course, it's well known that Nokia aren't exactly sure how to handle the process of dealing with bugs raised in bugs.maemo.org (apart from the overzealous use of "WONTFIX" and "SODOFF").

It could be that Notes is given a well-deserved revamp in OS 2006 (Q1 ends in a few weeks, place your bets now) and it won't be an issue next month ;-)

Cheers,

Andrew
 
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