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2011-08-25 , 17:24
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
I got a release date from Nokia for the N9... the 3rd Sept, but i wait and see and if they are telling me the truth then so be it... i will have 20 of them on that date BUT i will not hold my breath , i will be a patient ADULT waiting quietly in the background
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2011-08-25 , 17:35
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Sad too see Steve Jobs leaves Apple.
It would be way better if Stephen Elop leaved Nokia RIGHT NOW!!!<SNIP>
LOL, at least you're consistent in your hate.
 
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2011-08-25 , 17:43
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
I got a release date from Nokia for the N9... the 3rd Sept, but i wait and see and if they are telling me the truth then so be it... i will have 20 of them on that date BUT i will not hold my breath , i will be a patient ADULT waiting quietly in the background
not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012
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2011-08-25 , 17:44
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Sad too see Steve Jobs leaves Apple.
Jobs, love him or hate him, had a vision, and the cojones to shove it in the throat of the tech industry. And I am among those who believe that this grit of his did, in fact, change the tech industry.

Now, compare his attitude to that of guys like Apotheker or Elop. Yes, it would be ridiculous to demand every CEO to have such a personal way of reigning as Jobs, but all those guys strike me as drones without any kind of vision save what the shareholders say in the short term. Apotheker fumbled webOS and dropped the towel within six months, without having really released anything. Elop killed two OSes in the eyes of devs and buyers while still paying to upkeep them, and it's maddening to see symbian being killed just as it looks like having a fighting chance and the N9 commiting suicide by selective market deployment.

Jobs gave me, in short, the impression of playing a chess match in the long term, while the other guys... dunno, solitaire?
 

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2011-08-25 , 17:50
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012
It had better be a saturday or my plans go down the drain !
 
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2011-08-25 , 18:37
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People read that link I provided a few posts back, some exciting tidbits!
Some downers too, as it seems NFC payments will never be an option for the N9 (even with future software updates).

Yikes 430am... AGAIN... Goodnight.
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2011-08-25 , 18:51
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Originally Posted by unfuccwittable View Post
^lol @ whining about the ability (or lack thereof, rather) to change pictures of ****ing bookmarks.
The bookmark was just an example of Maemo flexibility. Meego is showing sign it's going toward Apple route. Hope Intel will fix that

If you read more, then you would see other things about Meego that make Maemo better. 1 real screen. 2nd screen is just app screen aka iPhone. 3rd screen could have been like Maemo and be activated by a button. Same could be said for the app screen. If you look at all the screenshot from other peers using N900's maemo, then you won't see more than 5% of them showing a screen full of app button. It's not needed. Widget over app button. The expand screen is nice but still not enough space when you only have 1 real homescreen.

My guess is most people don't use every single app every day every hour. Maemo hiding the app was the best way.

It's call less customization. That was the point and more dumped down to be like other OS.
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2011-08-25 , 19:15
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvB6rrnzDM8
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N9 - My Precious...

"Gods have mercy. Cats don't..." <- Kaotik@iotech
 

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2011-08-25 , 19:29
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@jn183: I think it's just as practical. The N900 could never multitask like the N9- one fourth the ram insures that. Even so, there are a lot of people that use the task switching screen to keep the most used applications open and ready to use. I love the press once for open apps, press two for app catalog arrangement of maemo. In my opinion all those high falutin' multitask paradigms of the other platforms pale in comparison when it comes to usability. I too leave apps open in the background routinely on the N900, and it will be even easier on the N9.I already imagine that I will leave stuff like the dialer and SMS/ IM open and notes open in the background all the time in routine usage.

Now, as to the dumbing down of the OS: Don't confuse the UI with the OS. Yes, the UI is closed, and yes, maemo 6/ harmattan is more closed that fremantle. Honestly, I'd rather have full meego with a open or semi open skin on it. But it is probably the most open OS on the market, especially now that webOS has bitten the dust. If we don't like the UI, somebody with more talent than me could probably write an open alternative. You can't do that on the iphone. Nor can you run daemons on the background, enable dev mode with the press of a button, set up a chroot, change the kernel to one without DRM shite etc etc. The fact that it can do that stuff AND appear to be friendly to non-linux-users is a triumph. A second take on the N900, as much as a lot of us would love it, would tank even harder, when it comes to sales, than the current one.
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2011-08-25 , 19:41
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Originally Posted by giorgosmit View Post
@jn183: I think it's just as practical. The N900 could never multitask like the N9- one fourth the ram insures that. Even so, there are a lot of people that use the task switching screen to keep the most used applications open and ready to use. I love the press once for open apps, press two for app catalog arrangement of maemo. In my opinion all those high falutin' multitask paradigms of the other platforms pale in comparison when it comes to usability. I too leave apps open in the background routinely on the N900, and it will be even easier on the N9.I already imagine that I will leave stuff like the dialer and SMS/ IM open and notes open in the background all the time in routine usage.

Now, as to the dumbing down of the OS: Don't confuse the UI with the OS. Yes, the UI is closed, and yes, maemo 6/ harmattan is more closed that fremantle. Honestly, I'd rather have full meego with a open or semi open skin on it. But it is probably the most open OS on the market, especially now that webOS has bitten the dust. If we don't like the UI, somebody with more talent than me could probably write an open alternative. You can't do that on the iphone. Nor can you run daemons on the background, enable dev mode with the press of a button, set up a chroot, change the kernel to one without DRM shite etc etc. The fact that it can do that stuff AND appear to be friendly to non-linux-users is a triumph. A second take on the N900, as much as a lot of us would love it, would tank even harder, when it comes to sales, than the current one.
finally someone that understands, your linux phone needs to actually be a ****ing phone first. sure there may be a couple things we lose here and there going from N900 to N9, but I think the bump in "stuff just working" is great for the platform. It legitimizes linux as viable platform for mass market. Make no mistake, the N9 COULD BE a mass market device, but Nokia has seen fit to restrict it to niches.

I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a call while doing something on my N900 and the phone just hangs while trying to switch from the app I'm in to the phone call in portrait. Often times, I miss the phone call entirely as it takes too long for me to answer it.
 

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