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2007-12-14
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Another key difference is I never have to plug my N800 into anything in order to "unlock" its potential. Out of the box its pretty much a freestanding linux machine. I can use Rhapsody to listen to music, I can DL songs from Emusic directly to the device. I can use Transmission to Torrent ANY kind of media directly to the device. I can connect directly to any shared drive on my network. Pretty much all the software is free. The best thing is that Nokia ENCOURAGE me to do this they want the device to be open and believe that I can be trusted to take care of myself in the big bad open world.
Trust me, when that iPhone SDK comes out say goodbye to free software that people are used to because of Jailbreak.
The Apple products feature a much more robust ecosystem if you use iTunes and they have a better touchscreen.
Take your eye-candy and walled garden and give me openness and customization.
About the only thing I want from Apple is their webkit browser and thats on its way soon
That way hopefully we can use the iPhone optimized web thats cool and all but is still fragmenting the www even more than it is already.
Trust me, when that iPhone SDK comes out say goodbye to free software that people are used to because of Jailbreak.
The Apple products feature a much more robust ecosystem if you use iTunes and they have a better touchscreen.
Take your eye-candy and walled garden and give me openness and customization.
About the only thing I want from Apple is their webkit browser and thats on its way soon
That way hopefully we can use the iPhone optimized web thats cool and all but is still fragmenting the www even more than it is already.
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by mctablet
I guess you could duct tape them together? one side's a phone the other the awesome tablet.
I have and like both, I just wish there was a way to pair them. It would be a super power.
-Rip
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by Mara
Gizmo on the n800 supports video calls ?
Well... Don't know you but I use/need things that iPhone can not:
- Use Gizmo Project (SIP) account to make VoIP calls when overseas
- Use it as GPS device (I bought external Bluetooth GPS receiver for that purpose) Works great with free MaemoMapper!
- Transfer/save/copy files easy with removable SD cards (and external USB reader makes this even more flexible.)
- Upgradeable up to 32GB of memory as of today (2x 16GB SDHC cards are available) At the moment I use sinle 8GB card.
- Play most format movies using Mplayer, without converting first to some other format.
- Don't need to use iTunes bloatware (over 50MB!!!) to "sync" my N800.
- Play stream radio stations (Shoutcast... iPhone may work on this too?)
- Connect my digicam and camcorder directly to N800 using N800's USB host mode.
- Do video calling to home (using Gizmo) when travelling overseas.
- Skype, though I do not use it that much.
- I can purhcase extra batteries to swap if I need extended use time.
Just something to start...
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by speedtriple
I have just tested the iphone. Why on earth should I not prefer iPhone over n800? (I do own an n800)
It's much faster (700mhz - feels 5 times faster), much better UI, smaller, incl GSM, have all the features as n800, the iPhone can perform all what the n800 can do...
It has all of the features of the N800?
You can use a bluetooth keyboard with it, for typing in your notes at a better/faster speed than using the on-screen keyboard?
You can, without hacking the device, add an ssh client to it?
You can, without hacking it, and without the lag of a web-app UI, access AIM, Yahoo, Jabber, and MSN chat?
You can, without hacking it, run a VNC viewer?
You can do bluetooth FTP to transfer files back and forth with your laptop or desktop?
You can, without hacking it, add 3rd party, native (non-web) apps to it?
You can, without hacking it, use a low cost/flat-rate VOIP service for your calls, instead of a stingy limited voice minutes plan?
You can, without hacking it, run a low cost music subscription client?
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2007-12-14
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You just can't easily configure a Linux server from scratch over a VPN connection with an iPhone.
That's one thing the N800/N810 do easily. I love how these >5 post trolls run in here babbling on and on about their iPhones.
My N95-3 beat up your iPhone.
That's one thing the N800/N810 do easily. I love how these >5 post trolls run in here babbling on and on about their iPhones.
My N95-3 beat up your iPhone.
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Kicking Nokia in the jimmy, one marketing exec at a time.
Originally Posted by Mr. T
Well maybe Mr. T hacked the game, and made a mowhawk class? And maybe Mr. T is pretty handy with computers? Had that occurred to you Mr. Condescending Director?
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2007-12-14
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I stepped into this thread because I feel a greatly overlooked aspect of the tablet vs iPhone vs Archos chatter is that even though its not *great* with some video media, its media access capabilities are really strong. You simply cannot beat the fact that its a UMPC. That means that it can do a lot of extra stuff such as SSH - VOIP etc but still show me the iPhone or Archos that can connect to a torrent tracker, download an entire album in zip format, unzip it and load it into a media player that grabs album art from the internet in <10 minutes, while sitting on a park bench. Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but when I did that last week next to my buddy who was playing with his ipod Touch, even he could agree that there was a definite advantage to the IT.
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by RipTorn
I see a TV commercial - 2 people running down the street toward each other, not looking where they are going because they are using their gadgets, one an iPhone, the other a Nokia tablet - BANG!, they collide - smoke clears - and we see the brand new gadget....
I guess you could duct tape them together? one side's a phone the other the awesome tablet.
-Rip
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by DJames1
Trust me, this happened in school a few days ago! But the story ended differently. Just that the N800 fellow scratched his stand and iPhone scratched the screen
I see a TV commercial - 2 people running down the street toward each other, not looking where they are going because they are using their gadgets, one an iPhone, the other a Nokia tablet - BANG!, they collide - smoke clears - and we see the brand new gadget....
as both devices crashed on gravel and sand. No new device though !By the way the N800 will let u browse , ssh , listen to music , skype and Pidgin chat simultaneously. And now when there is a skype call it will mute the music so that you can talk. Multiprocessing ! I am afraid one cannot imagine that on an iPhone.
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2007-12-14
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Originally Posted by speedtriple
Where did 700 mhz come from?
I have just tested the iphone. Why on earth should I not prefer iPhone over n800? (I do own an n800)
It's much faster (700mhz - feels 5 times faster), much better UI, smaller, incl GSM, have all the features as n800, the iPhone can perform all what the n800 can do...
The 1.1.2 update overclocked the CPU to 412 mhz, up from 400 mhz
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2007/12/0...s-clock-speed/
GPS support - iPod touch has no bluetooth, and no USB host. Makes it a little tricky.
OS - once the API comes out for the iPod touch, it will be very cool, and there's the jailbreak. N800 has Linux.
CPU speed - hmmm. The N800 is slower, but the OS doesn't have all the very cool GUI effects. OS2008's de-underclock to 400MHZ is definitely a good thing!
Web browsing capability - The Touch has Safari. There's a webkit-based browser in planning for the N800, and for now we have Opera and microb. Hmm, I'd probably rather have the 800x480 screen, though browsing the web on the touch works quite well.
Cost - n800 is cheaper (here at least) although given the price of adding two SD cards for 16GB worth, that might even up...
Media playback - iPod Touch syncs with iTunes (while some of you may see this as a downside - on OS X, iTunes is much nicer than it is on Windows
Size - clear winner for the Touch! Given what it packs - it's truly tiny!
Expandability - n800 has USB host and 2xSD slots. iPod touch has... a dock connector with a serial line that could be hacked.
Wireless - n800 runs Kismet, and might be capable of an external USB wifi card. iPod touch has internal wifi, but I guess since I don't have one, there won't be a KisMac port for the time being.
I thought the n800 would be good. I'm coming from a Palm TX, so I'm not that hard to impress
End result: They are very different devices. Put them next to each other and you'll see this.
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